Comments on: AVATAR Box Office: Behind THE BELLS OF ST. MARY’S or LAWRENCE OF ARABIA? http://www.altfg.com/blog/box-office/avatar-lawrence-of-arabia-89599/ The Oscars, film awards, new releases, Los Angeles screenings, movie classics, gay movies, film festivals, box office, foreign and independent films Sun, 20 May 2012 21:06:15 +0000 hourly 1 By: Tony Robertson http://www.altfg.com/blog/box-office/avatar-lawrence-of-arabia-89599/#comment-486712 Tony Robertson Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:54:53 +0000 http://www.altfg.com/blog/?p=21862#comment-486712 I have seen several articles about the whole inflation thing but see how ify it gets when you have to guess length of release, cable and dvd eating into time at the box office. Growth of population. It just really becomes a guessing game with all the what ifs. I just don't see how you can compare movies from 40's years ago and further back. Really if you think about it when the talk about the top pop songs they really don't go back further than the rock era and a lot of times not back further than 1970. There is that obvious break at 1955 when the rock era began. Reason, people just are not interested in something that far back for the most part. Even if you put say Gone With the Wind at the top what would that accomplish. Probably not much. Would people start demanding a return to that style of movie, I doubt it. Even the sequel to it Scarlett did only so so. You didn't see a mad rush of people to see it like when more recent sequels were made like Phantom Menace. I just don't see the advantage to dig up old movies. Those who do care know which ones they are, all the rest of the population will continue to ignore them. I have seen several articles about the whole inflation thing but see how ify it gets when you have to guess length of release, cable and dvd eating into time at the box office. Growth of population. It just really becomes a guessing game with all the what ifs. I just don’t see how you can compare movies from 40′s years ago and further back. Really if you think about it when the talk about the top pop songs they really don’t go back further than the rock era and a lot of times not back further than 1970. There is that obvious break at 1955 when the rock era began.

Reason, people just are not interested in something that far back for the most part. Even if you put say Gone With the Wind at the top what would that accomplish. Probably not much. Would people start demanding a return to that style of movie, I doubt it. Even the sequel to it Scarlett did only so so. You didn’t see a mad rush of people to see it like when more recent sequels were made like Phantom Menace. I just don’t see the advantage to dig up old movies. Those who do care know which ones they are, all the rest of the population will continue to ignore them.

]]> By: Federico http://www.altfg.com/blog/box-office/avatar-lawrence-of-arabia-89599/#comment-486688 Federico Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:08:22 +0000 http://www.altfg.com/blog/?p=21862#comment-486688 I think it would be worth noticing that ALL the existing charts are DOMESTIC (i.e. north american), while Avatar is primarly an INTERNATIONAL success, over 70% of its gross comes from foreign contruies. Although it is difficoult to make comparison adjusted by inflaction based on worlwide sellings, if you simply compare the percentage of domestic/worldwide sellings of all the movies in the 20 top seller adjusted by inflaction chart, you will find that Avatar has rougly tied Star Wars and that the only movies still haed of it are Titanic and GwtW. To tie these two Avatar will need to make rougly 3 bilions $, which is not at all impossible IMHO I think it would be worth noticing that ALL the existing charts are DOMESTIC (i.e. north american), while Avatar is primarly an INTERNATIONAL success, over 70% of its gross comes from foreign contruies.

Although it is difficoult to make comparison adjusted by inflaction based on worlwide sellings, if you simply compare the percentage of domestic/worldwide sellings of all the movies in the 20 top seller adjusted by inflaction chart, you will find that Avatar has rougly tied Star Wars and that the only movies still haed of it are Titanic and GwtW.

To tie these two Avatar will need to make rougly 3 bilions $, which is not at all impossible IMHO

]]> By: mh http://www.altfg.com/blog/box-office/avatar-lawrence-of-arabia-89599/#comment-486687 mh Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:49:53 +0000 http://www.altfg.com/blog/?p=21862#comment-486687 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Your numbers are off. Box office mojo calculated out the 3d/IMAX ticket prices about a week ago and estimated up to that point it had sold about 60 million tickets. Using the $7.35 average, Avatar would have made atleast $440 million if everyone did not pay the extra charge for 3d/IMAX tickets. No, the numbers aren't "off." At least no more "off" than anyone else's. Try handing out $10 at the box office in just about every theater in any major urban center and see if you'll be able to buy a ticket for "Avatar." Box Office Mojo's Brandon Grey used a $10 average for the 3D screenings. He does explain that's just an approximation based on his observations of ticket prices nationwide. I'd have used something closer to $12 based on my own observations, especially considering that the "average" ticket price -- as published by the National Association of Theater Owners -- is way too low to being with. "Avatar's" 2D screenings don't cost $7.61 on average, you can bet on that. But as Grey explains in his piece, it's better to have an approximation than no idea whatsoever of how many tickets a movie has sold. Here's the Box Office Mojo piece: http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2667 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Your numbers are off. Box office mojo calculated out the 3d/IMAX ticket prices about a week ago and estimated up to that point it had sold about 60 million tickets. Using the $7.35 average, Avatar would have made atleast $440 million if everyone did not pay the extra charge for 3d/IMAX tickets.

No, the numbers aren’t “off.” At least no more “off” than anyone else’s. Try handing out $10 at the box office in just about every theater in any major urban center and see if you’ll be able to buy a ticket for “Avatar.”

Box Office Mojo’s Brandon Grey used a $10 average for the 3D screenings. He does explain that’s just an approximation based on his observations of ticket prices nationwide. I’d have used something closer to $12 based on my own observations, especially considering that the “average” ticket price — as published by the National Association of Theater Owners — is way too low to being with. “Avatar’s” 2D screenings don’t cost $7.61 on average, you can bet on that. But as Grey explains in his piece, it’s better to have an approximation than no idea whatsoever of how many tickets a movie has sold.

Here’s the Box Office Mojo piece:
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2667

]]> By: Dennis http://www.altfg.com/blog/box-office/avatar-lawrence-of-arabia-89599/#comment-486684 Dennis Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:51:58 +0000 http://www.altfg.com/blog/?p=21862#comment-486684 Money is money - no matter when collected! The success of Avatar is amazing $2.3 Billion and counting in 57 days! This record will not be broken anytime soon. Money is money – no matter when collected! The success of Avatar is amazing $2.3 Billion and counting in 57 days! This record will not be broken anytime soon.

]]> By: Rich http://www.altfg.com/blog/box-office/avatar-lawrence-of-arabia-89599/#comment-486681 Rich Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:14:39 +0000 http://www.altfg.com/blog/?p=21862#comment-486681 Your numbers are off. Box office mojo calculated out the 3d/IMAX ticket prices about a week ago and estimated up to that point it had sold about 60 million tickets. Using the $7.35 average, Avatar would have made atleast $440 million if everyone did not pay the extra charge for 3d/IMAX tickets. Your numbers are off. Box office mojo calculated out the 3d/IMAX ticket prices about a week ago and estimated up to that point it had sold about 60 million tickets. Using the $7.35 average, Avatar would have made atleast $440 million if everyone did not pay the extra charge for 3d/IMAX tickets.

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