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		<title>By: Gwenda Y</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gwenda Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Andre Soares and all contributors,
Interested to read this exchange on Brown. I agree- his work is uneven (as with most Hollywood directors of the studio era) but when he is good, he really IS good. I&#039;ve seen 51 of his 53 films as director (two are &#039;lost films&#039;) and there are certainly some &#039;dogs&#039; but there are many, many examples of very fine, imaginative filmmaking even in films that are routine, plot wise. Brown himself is interesting- complex and much more thoughtful, full of contradictions. Hopefully, I will be able to convey this and the power of many of his films, in the book.
Btw, I liked Andre Soares&#039; book on Novarro...
Regards
Gwenda Young</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Andre Soares and all contributors,<br />
Interested to read this exchange on Brown. I agree- his work is uneven (as with most Hollywood directors of the studio era) but when he is good, he really IS good. I&#8217;ve seen 51 of his 53 films as director (two are &#8216;lost films&#8217;) and there are certainly some &#8216;dogs&#8217; but there are many, many examples of very fine, imaginative filmmaking even in films that are routine, plot wise. Brown himself is interesting- complex and much more thoughtful, full of contradictions. Hopefully, I will be able to convey this and the power of many of his films, in the book.<br />
Btw, I liked Andre Soares&#8217; book on Novarro&#8230;<br />
Regards<br />
Gwenda Young</p>
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		<title>By: Andre Soares</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andre Soares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing, but ...

You didn&#039;t see this at the start of my fourth paragraph?

&quot;That’s unfortunate, as Brown — though not one of my favorite filmmakers — did display a remarkable visual flair and technical virtuosity in most of his films that I’ve seen.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing, but &#8230;</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t see this at the start of my fourth paragraph?</p>
<p>&#8220;That’s unfortunate, as Brown — though not one of my favorite filmmakers — did display a remarkable visual flair and technical virtuosity in most of his films that I’ve seen.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lorin Pace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorin Pace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 05:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too, disagree with your assessment of Clarence Brown as hving no visual style, no auteur, etc...

Actually, there were many times in my studies of classic film where I&#039;d be discovering a &quot;new&quot; old film on TCM or having checked out a half-dozen films starring an actor of interest, and I&#039;d think, &quot;This is a visually extraordinary scene&quot; because of the camera&#039;s virtuosity, or use of visual metaphor to convey the emotions of the scene, and mostly because it is a unique or unusual set-up, and lo, it will be a Clarence Brown film. This occurred while viewing the early &quot;Possessed&quot; with Joan Crawford (you know, the scene in the train-yard as the cars go by, presenting a moving vignette of life in each of the windows), and during Anna Karenina with that incredible shot of the banquet; not to mention moments in &quot;Chained&quot; (the ranch scenes), &quot;The Rains Came&quot; (the raging waters as allegory to Loy&#039;s pull on Power&#039;s good doctor), and &quot;Wife vs Secretary&quot; (besides the beautiful, understated performance of Jean Harlow denying her attraction, yet demonstrating it with every action, take a look at the phone booth scene, the dinners at the young boyfriend&#039;s house, the hotel room in Havana) where the emotions from despair to deep love virtually transcend mere script and screen. Borzage was able to do this, as was McCarey and La Cava.

Maybe it&#039;s a gender thing. Women tend to &quot;feel&quot; and appreciate this sort of magic more than the intended thrill that action and battle scenes offer. Some men often find any classic film&#039;s romance scenes &quot;heavy handed&quot; and sappy. And granted many are. But compare the majority of Brown&#039;s with Wyler&#039;s &quot;Wuthering Heights&quot; or Capra&#039;s &quot;Meet John Doe.&quot; THOSE are heavy-handed and usually without the visual interest and creativity that Clarence Brown gives us.

I almost forgot... How great is the set-up in &quot;They Met in Bombay&quot; with Russell&#039;s &quot;Lady Anya&quot; readying herself for the evening&#039;s con, and Gable having picked up her scent. The first 15 minutes has very little dialogue and is shot with dual POV&#039;s, and very effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too, disagree with your assessment of Clarence Brown as hving no visual style, no auteur, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Actually, there were many times in my studies of classic film where I&#8217;d be discovering a &#8220;new&#8221; old film on TCM or having checked out a half-dozen films starring an actor of interest, and I&#8217;d think, &#8220;This is a visually extraordinary scene&#8221; because of the camera&#8217;s virtuosity, or use of visual metaphor to convey the emotions of the scene, and mostly because it is a unique or unusual set-up, and lo, it will be a Clarence Brown film. This occurred while viewing the early &#8220;Possessed&#8221; with Joan Crawford (you know, the scene in the train-yard as the cars go by, presenting a moving vignette of life in each of the windows), and during Anna Karenina with that incredible shot of the banquet; not to mention moments in &#8220;Chained&#8221; (the ranch scenes), &#8220;The Rains Came&#8221; (the raging waters as allegory to Loy&#8217;s pull on Power&#8217;s good doctor), and &#8220;Wife vs Secretary&#8221; (besides the beautiful, understated performance of Jean Harlow denying her attraction, yet demonstrating it with every action, take a look at the phone booth scene, the dinners at the young boyfriend&#8217;s house, the hotel room in Havana) where the emotions from despair to deep love virtually transcend mere script and screen. Borzage was able to do this, as was McCarey and La Cava.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s a gender thing. Women tend to &#8220;feel&#8221; and appreciate this sort of magic more than the intended thrill that action and battle scenes offer. Some men often find any classic film&#8217;s romance scenes &#8220;heavy handed&#8221; and sappy. And granted many are. But compare the majority of Brown&#8217;s with Wyler&#8217;s &#8220;Wuthering Heights&#8221; or Capra&#8217;s &#8220;Meet John Doe.&#8221; THOSE are heavy-handed and usually without the visual interest and creativity that Clarence Brown gives us.</p>
<p>I almost forgot&#8230; How great is the set-up in &#8220;They Met in Bombay&#8221; with Russell&#8217;s &#8220;Lady Anya&#8221; readying herself for the evening&#8217;s con, and Gable having picked up her scent. The first 15 minutes has very little dialogue and is shot with dual POV&#8217;s, and very effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Redmond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Redmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a student of Gwenda Young&#039;s in Final Year Arts, UCC, and in our silent cinema seminar we&#039;ve just started to look at Brown&#039;s films. Watched Smouldering Flowers last week, Flesh and the Devil tomorrow. He&#039;s certainly a fascinating director and I look forward to delving further into his work.
    I also look forward to the publication of Gwenda&#039;s book; if it&#039;s anything like her classes it&#039;ll be both entertaining and informative. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a student of Gwenda Young&#8217;s in Final Year Arts, UCC, and in our silent cinema seminar we&#8217;ve just started to look at Brown&#8217;s films. Watched Smouldering Flowers last week, Flesh and the Devil tomorrow. He&#8217;s certainly a fascinating director and I look forward to delving further into his work.<br />
    I also look forward to the publication of Gwenda&#8217;s book; if it&#8217;s anything like her classes it&#8217;ll be both entertaining and informative. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Andre Soares</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andre Soares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;ignorant, short-sighted and incredibly sexist&quot;?

Gee, thanks. 
But... how could you have gotten it all wrong?

Did you bother reading the follow-up paragraph to the one you quote in your comment? Did you read the previous paragraph? 

Wasn&#039;t it obvious that I&#039;m pointing out that *film historians* are the ones who tend to be short-sighted and sexist -- and that that&#039;s why Clarence Brown&#039;s work isn&#039;t well-remembered today? Didn&#039;t you read my paragraph praising some of Brown&#039;s work with actors?

These posts may be of interest:

http://www.altfg.com/blog/actors/honorary-oscars-bypass-women/

http://www.altfg.com/blog/actors/george-cukor-top-oscar-directors-for-actors-iii/

By the way, I&#039;ve seen 25 of Clarence Brown&#039;s 50 or so films. That gives me a pretty good idea of the kind of director he was and the types of films he made. I&#039;m hardly &quot;ignorant&quot; when it comes to Brown&#039;s career, even if my assessment of it may not match yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;ignorant, short-sighted and incredibly sexist&#8221;?</p>
<p>Gee, thanks.<br />
But&#8230; how could you have gotten it all wrong?</p>
<p>Did you bother reading the follow-up paragraph to the one you quote in your comment? Did you read the previous paragraph? </p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t it obvious that I&#8217;m pointing out that *film historians* are the ones who tend to be short-sighted and sexist &#8212; and that that&#8217;s why Clarence Brown&#8217;s work isn&#8217;t well-remembered today? Didn&#8217;t you read my paragraph praising some of Brown&#8217;s work with actors?</p>
<p>These posts may be of interest:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.altfg.com/blog/actors/honorary-oscars-bypass-women/" rel="nofollow">http://www.altfg.com/blog/actors/honorary-oscars-bypass-women/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.altfg.com/blog/actors/george-cukor-top-oscar-directors-for-actors-iii/" rel="nofollow">http://www.altfg.com/blog/actors/george-cukor-top-oscar-directors-for-actors-iii/</a></p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;ve seen 25 of Clarence Brown&#8217;s 50 or so films. That gives me a pretty good idea of the kind of director he was and the types of films he made. I&#8217;m hardly &#8220;ignorant&#8221; when it comes to Brown&#8217;s career, even if my assessment of it may not match yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Margarita Landazuri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margarita Landazuri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across this article while researching Brown&#039;s film, INTRUDER IN THE DUST. 

I found your comments &quot;he lacked a distinctive visual or thematic style. In other words: No auteur; no nothing. Compounding matters, Brown’s films usually focused on women — mainly Greta Garbo, Joan Crawford, and Norma Shearer — and their issues&quot; ignorant, short-sighted and incredibly sexist. There was nothing show-offy about Brown;s style -- it served the story, instead of being a showcase for &quot;visual style.&quot; After seeing INTRUDER IN THE DUST, Faulkner himself commented, “I like the way Mr. Brown used bird calls and saddle squeaks and footsteps in place of a lot of loud music telling you what emotion you should be experiencing.”

As for your implication that films about women and their problems are inherently less valuable, that says more about you than about Brown. It also shows your ignorance about Brown&#039;s body of work and his versatility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across this article while researching Brown&#8217;s film, INTRUDER IN THE DUST. </p>
<p>I found your comments &#8220;he lacked a distinctive visual or thematic style. In other words: No auteur; no nothing. Compounding matters, Brown’s films usually focused on women — mainly Greta Garbo, Joan Crawford, and Norma Shearer — and their issues&#8221; ignorant, short-sighted and incredibly sexist. There was nothing show-offy about Brown;s style &#8212; it served the story, instead of being a showcase for &#8220;visual style.&#8221; After seeing INTRUDER IN THE DUST, Faulkner himself commented, “I like the way Mr. Brown used bird calls and saddle squeaks and footsteps in place of a lot of loud music telling you what emotion you should be experiencing.”</p>
<p>As for your implication that films about women and their problems are inherently less valuable, that says more about you than about Brown. It also shows your ignorance about Brown&#8217;s body of work and his versatility.</p>
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		<title>By: Nakis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nakis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His two silents with Garbo &quot;Flesh and the Devil&quot; and &quot;Woman of Affairs&quot; are absolutely remarquable both in terms of cinematic images and unfrogettable performances by the leads. Garbo changes the image of women on films presenting a passionate, strong, independent, intelligent and powerful image and I believe that Brown was a powerful factor in detecting her extraordinary qualities on film. Her performance in &quot;Woman of Affairs&quot; is in my opinion insurpassable especially the scene where she lies ill at the hospital and emerges from her room in a frantic search of the bouquet of roses rent to her by her lover portrayed by Gilbert. I do not share the opinion presented in this article &quot;Garbo horrendous in Anna Christie etc&quot;. I think Brown did more than an honest job in brigning to life O&#039;Neil&#039;s play (almost impossible to adapt for the screen) and Garbo has wonderful moments in that film (we should not forget that this was her first talkie) as well as Marie Dressler. And thanks to Brown&#039;s direction she delivered the definitive Anna Karenina in 1935.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His two silents with Garbo &#8220;Flesh and the Devil&#8221; and &#8220;Woman of Affairs&#8221; are absolutely remarquable both in terms of cinematic images and unfrogettable performances by the leads. Garbo changes the image of women on films presenting a passionate, strong, independent, intelligent and powerful image and I believe that Brown was a powerful factor in detecting her extraordinary qualities on film. Her performance in &#8220;Woman of Affairs&#8221; is in my opinion insurpassable especially the scene where she lies ill at the hospital and emerges from her room in a frantic search of the bouquet of roses rent to her by her lover portrayed by Gilbert. I do not share the opinion presented in this article &#8220;Garbo horrendous in Anna Christie etc&#8221;. I think Brown did more than an honest job in brigning to life O&#8217;Neil&#8217;s play (almost impossible to adapt for the screen) and Garbo has wonderful moments in that film (we should not forget that this was her first talkie) as well as Marie Dressler. And thanks to Brown&#8217;s direction she delivered the definitive Anna Karenina in 1935.</p>
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		<title>By: Andre Soares</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andre Soares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a big fan of &quot;Flesh and the Devil,&quot; but I did like &quot;The Rains Came.&quot; 
I also like the uneven &quot;Idiot&#039;s Delight.&quot; Some moments in the film are excellent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a big fan of &#8220;Flesh and the Devil,&#8221; but I did like &#8220;The Rains Came.&#8221;<br />
I also like the uneven &#8220;Idiot&#8217;s Delight.&#8221; Some moments in the film are excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: Otto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite Clarence Brown film is &quot;The Rains Came&quot; with Myrna Loy, Tyrone Power, and George Brent. And Maria Ouspenskaya, that great scene-stealer. The earthquake sequence remains very impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite Clarence Brown film is &#8220;The Rains Came&#8221; with Myrna Loy, Tyrone Power, and George Brent. And Maria Ouspenskaya, that great scene-stealer. The earthquake sequence remains very impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: C. Olson</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flesh and the Devil is one of my favorite silent films. It&#039;s a gorgeous-looking film. Greta Garbo is stunning. John Gilbert sizzles. And I felt for him and Lars Hanson. They were so happy together until Garbo came along...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flesh and the Devil is one of my favorite silent films. It&#8217;s a gorgeous-looking film. Greta Garbo is stunning. John Gilbert sizzles. And I felt for him and Lars Hanson. They were so happy together until Garbo came along&#8230;</p>
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