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> <channel><title>Comments on: THE CONTENDER Review &#8211; Joan Allen, Jeff Bridges, Gary Oldman d: Rod Lurie</title> <atom:link href="http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/contender-rod-lurie-joan-allen/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/contender-rod-lurie-joan-allen/</link> <description>The Oscars, film awards, new releases, Los Angeles screenings, movie classics, gay movies, film festivals, box office, foreign and independent films</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:29:46 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Andre Soares</title><link>http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/contender-rod-lurie-joan-allen/#comment-514664</link> <dc:creator>Andre Soares</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:49:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/contender-rod-lurie-joan-allen/#comment-514664</guid> <description>Hey, Nathan,
I agree. If you haven&#039;t already, you should check out Otto Preminger&#039;s &quot;Advise and Consent&quot; and Franklin J. Schaffner&#039;s &quot;The Best Man.&quot; The latter was written by Gore Vidal. Both are good movies and deal very much with partisan politics of one kind or another.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Nathan,</p><p>I agree. If you haven't already, you should check out Otto Preminger's "Advise and Consent" and Franklin J. Schaffner's "The Best Man." The latter was written by Gore Vidal. Both are good movies and deal very much with partisan politics of one kind or another.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nathan Donarum</title><link>http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/contender-rod-lurie-joan-allen/#comment-514663</link> <dc:creator>Nathan Donarum</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:15:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/contender-rod-lurie-joan-allen/#comment-514663</guid> <description>I totally understand what you&#039;re getting at. She does seem to be flawless from a human perspective. Everyone has flaws... Especially politicians. It does make the attacks on her from Gary Oldman&#039;s character seem all the more awful, and I suppose that&#039;s what Lurie was getting at. But your point is well-taken. As much as it may work to help the audience side with Allen&#039;s character, it comes off more contrived than true.
I had forgotten about that. Really interesting of Demme to make that point (and interesting of him to do so with such subtlety). All in all, I have a really hard time thinking of movies with fictional politicians (and especially Presidents) who have clear political leanings. Even that show Commander in Chief with Geena Davis, which DID spell out their party affiliations, got around making a message by having the President be a Republican and the VP (Davis) be a Democrat who felt the need to nonetheless follow her President&#039;s will after inheriting the office. Ugh. I just wish that touching partisan politics in movies (and TV, since I mentioned a TV show right there) didn&#039;t always have to be so closeted.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally understand what you're getting at. She does seem to be flawless from a human perspective. Everyone has flaws&#8230; Especially politicians. It does make the attacks on her from Gary Oldman's character seem all the more awful, and I suppose that's what Lurie was getting at. But your point is well-taken. As much as it may work to help the audience side with Allen's character, it comes off more contrived than true.</p><p>I had forgotten about that. Really interesting of Demme to make that point (and interesting of him to do so with such subtlety). All in all, I have a really hard time thinking of movies with fictional politicians (and especially Presidents) who have clear political leanings. Even that show Commander in Chief with Geena Davis, which DID spell out their party affiliations, got around making a message by having the President be a Republican and the VP (Davis) be a Democrat who felt the need to nonetheless follow her President's will after inheriting the office. Ugh. I just wish that touching partisan politics in movies (and TV, since I mentioned a TV show right there) didn't always have to be so closeted.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andre Soares</title><link>http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/contender-rod-lurie-joan-allen/#comment-514661</link> <dc:creator>Andre Soares</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:44:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/contender-rod-lurie-joan-allen/#comment-514661</guid> <description>Hey, Nathan,
Thanks for writing. Always good to hear (or rather, read) your point of view.
My problem with &quot;The Contender&quot; was that Joan Allen&#039;s character was just TOO perfect. Couldn&#039;t she have had perhaps one, however minor, flaw...? Say, she didn&#039;t like chocolate, or was a slob at home, or didn&#039;t know how to make enchiladas -- or perhaps was a poor backgammon player??
As for most filmmakers being squeamish about letting us know who is a Republican, who is a Democrat in their movies, I&#039;m sure you&#039;re right. I remember one such instance: Jonathan Demme&#039;s THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE. Strangely, Meryl Streep&#039;s Evil Mom turned out to be a veiled Democrat. You can see on a map the colors of her party winning in Democratic states.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Nathan,</p><p>Thanks for writing. Always good to hear (or rather, read) your point of view.<br
/> My problem with "The Contender" was that Joan Allen's character was just TOO perfect. Couldn't she have had perhaps one, however minor, flaw&#8230;? Say, she didn't like chocolate, or was a slob at home, or didn't know how to make enchiladas &#8212; or perhaps was a poor backgammon player??</p><p>As for most filmmakers being squeamish about letting us know who is a Republican, who is a Democrat in their movies, I'm sure you're right. I remember one such instance: Jonathan Demme's THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE. Strangely, Meryl Streep's Evil Mom turned out to be a veiled Democrat. You can see on a map the colors of her party winning in Democratic states.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nathan Donarum</title><link>http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/contender-rod-lurie-joan-allen/#comment-514658</link> <dc:creator>Nathan Donarum</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:29:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/contender-rod-lurie-joan-allen/#comment-514658</guid> <description>I think the point you make about Hanson&#039;s qualifications is PRECISELY what the film is trying to convey. The thing to remember is how overtly partisan the movie is. It&#039;s about a Republican Senator trying to derail a Democrat. That&#039;s the basis of the film. If her qualifications seem intrinsic to you, then that&#039;s precisely what Lurie is saying: despite her obvious qualifications, she&#039;s still getting viciously attacked by a partisan Republican. That&#039;s not the only point that Lurie is making in the movie, but I think it&#039;s one of the major ones. He obviously has a bone to pick with the Republicans, and the portrayal of Gary Oldman&#039;s Senator is such that after production wrapped, Oldman tried to sue the movie for his character&#039;s portrayal. It was a complicated mess.
I personally really enjoyed The Contender. It doesn&#039;t have to strike a complete tone of realism (as most thrillers, political or otherwise, rarely do). But it is very well acted, nicely scripted, and it has the balls to actually label its characters by their political party. That&#039;s one thing that frustrates me to no end about most movies in which politics enters the equation: we NEVER know what party the politicians or President are from. And I feel as if it&#039;s mainly to not piss people off. Lurie doesn&#039;t care, because he&#039;s making a point about partisan politics. I give him props for that.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the point you make about Hanson's qualifications is PRECISELY what the film is trying to convey. The thing to remember is how overtly partisan the movie is. It's about a Republican Senator trying to derail a Democrat. That's the basis of the film. If her qualifications seem intrinsic to you, then that's precisely what Lurie is saying: despite her obvious qualifications, she's still getting viciously attacked by a partisan Republican. That's not the only point that Lurie is making in the movie, but I think it's one of the major ones. He obviously has a bone to pick with the Republicans, and the portrayal of Gary Oldman's Senator is such that after production wrapped, Oldman tried to sue the movie for his character's portrayal. It was a complicated mess.</p><p>I personally really enjoyed The Contender. It doesn't have to strike a complete tone of realism (as most thrillers, political or otherwise, rarely do). But it is very well acted, nicely scripted, and it has the balls to actually label its characters by their political party. That's one thing that frustrates me to no end about most movies in which politics enters the equation: we NEVER know what party the politicians or President are from. And I feel as if it's mainly to not piss people off. Lurie doesn't care, because he's making a point about partisan politics. I give him props for that.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
