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> <channel><title>Comments on: OPERATION THUNDERBOLT Review &#8211; Klaus Kinski, Yehoram Gaon, Sybil Danning d: Menahem Golan</title> <atom:link href="http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/operation-thunderbolt-menahem-golam/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/operation-thunderbolt-menahem-golam/</link> <description>The Oscars, film awards, new releases, Los Angeles screenings, movie classics, gay movies, film festivals, box office, foreign and independent films</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:29:46 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Occams Tool</title><link>http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/operation-thunderbolt-menahem-golam/#comment-526509</link> <dc:creator>Occams Tool</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 21:12:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/operation-thunderbolt-menahem-golam/#comment-526509</guid> <description>Sorry, &quot;moral&quot; equivalence.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, "moral" equivalence.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Occams Tool</title><link>http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/operation-thunderbolt-menahem-golam/#comment-526508</link> <dc:creator>Occams Tool</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 21:12:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/operation-thunderbolt-menahem-golam/#comment-526508</guid> <description>Sybil, thank you for your defense of the film.
I get tired of evenhandedness with scum. There is no maral equivalence between those who would kill old ladies and helpless civilians and those who would rescue them.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sybil, thank you for your defense of the film.</p><p>I get tired of evenhandedness with scum. There is no maral equivalence between those who would kill old ladies and helpless civilians and those who would rescue them.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Occams Tool</title><link>http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/operation-thunderbolt-menahem-golam/#comment-526507</link> <dc:creator>Occams Tool</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 21:07:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/operation-thunderbolt-menahem-golam/#comment-526507</guid> <description>Yonni Netanyahu was a hero of the first rank, a Harvard educated philosopher and warrior who led from the front and was the only soldier killed at Entebbe. Yeah, he deserved the shoot from the feet deify shot.
I&#039;m sorry, but terrorists are slime. Take Nidal Hassan, for example. I was hired to work at the Fort Hood Darnell Medical Center as a psychiatrist before I took my other job, so I would be dead today except for luck.
Hasan lectured about cutting off the heads of infidels, he frequented exotic dancer bars, and he was, by all accounts, a very subpar clinician.
Yeah, most terrorists have limited worldviews and limited fashion and behavioral sense.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yonni Netanyahu was a hero of the first rank, a Harvard educated philosopher and warrior who led from the front and was the only soldier killed at Entebbe. Yeah, he deserved the shoot from the feet deify shot.</p><p>I'm sorry, but terrorists are slime. Take Nidal Hassan, for example. I was hired to work at the Fort Hood Darnell Medical Center as a psychiatrist before I took my other job, so I would be dead today except for luck.</p><p>Hasan lectured about cutting off the heads of infidels, he frequented exotic dancer bars, and he was, by all accounts, a very subpar clinician.</p><p>Yeah, most terrorists have limited worldviews and limited fashion and behavioral sense.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andre Soares</title><link>http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/operation-thunderbolt-menahem-golam/#comment-514576</link> <dc:creator>Andre Soares</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 21:46:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/operation-thunderbolt-menahem-golam/#comment-514576</guid> <description>Thank you for writing.
My chief problem with &quot;Operation Thunderbolt&quot; was with its propagandistic tone.
I knew the basic facts about the hijacking, but I&#039;ve no idea if all the political insinuations/accusations/portrayals found in Golan and Reynolds&#039; screenplay are true. The film&#039;s tone had me wondering. I believe a more sober, detached account of the events would have worked in the film&#039;s favor.
By the way, cool website... (http://www.sybildanning.net/)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for writing.</p><p>My chief problem with "Operation Thunderbolt" was with its propagandistic tone.</p><p>I knew the basic facts about the hijacking, but I've no idea if all the political insinuations/accusations/portrayals found in Golan and Reynolds' screenplay are true. The film's tone had me wondering. I believe a more sober, detached account of the events would have worked in the film's favor.</p><p>By the way, cool website&#8230; (<a
href="http://www.sybildanning.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sybildanning.net/</a>)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sybil Danning</title><link>http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/operation-thunderbolt-menahem-golam/#comment-514572</link> <dc:creator>Sybil Danning</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 20:51:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/operation-thunderbolt-menahem-golam/#comment-514572</guid> <description>Andre, What the f---. Know the true facts before claiming to know them. All in the movie is authentic, clothes, my glassesa, etc. Menahem Golan interview the survivors! Sybil Danning</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andre, What the f&#8212;. Know the true facts before claiming to know them. All in the movie is authentic, clothes, my glassesa, etc. Menahem Golan interview the survivors! Sybil Danning</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andre Soares</title><link>http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/operation-thunderbolt-menahem-golam/#comment-486382</link> <dc:creator>Andre Soares</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:52:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/operation-thunderbolt-menahem-golam/#comment-486382</guid> <description>Thanks for writing.
Just clarifying one thing:
This line
“Thus, Jews are either poor victims or brave warriors, while terrorists are mean, grenade-carrying people with neither raison d’être nor taste in clothes or sunglasses.&quot;
only says that characters in OPERATION THUNDERBOLT are one-dimensional. That approach may work in simple thrillers, but not in political films.
So, no, I was not trying in any way whatsoever to justify -- not even &quot;just a little, just a little bit&quot; -- hijackings, murders, mass murders (or the threat of mass murders) in any guise (including war).
*No cause* -- god(s), country, flag, freedom, family, etc etc -- justifies that.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing.<br
/> Just clarifying one thing:<br
/> This line<br
/> “Thus, Jews are either poor victims or brave warriors, while terrorists are mean, grenade-carrying people with neither raison d’être nor taste in clothes or sunglasses."<br
/> only says that characters in OPERATION THUNDERBOLT are one-dimensional. That approach may work in simple thrillers, but not in political films.<br
/> So, no, I was not trying in any way whatsoever to justify &#8212; not even "just a little, just a little bit" &#8212; hijackings, murders, mass murders (or the threat of mass murders) in any guise (including war).<br
/> *No cause* &#8212; god(s), country, flag, freedom, family, etc etc &#8212; justifies that.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tash</title><link>http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/operation-thunderbolt-menahem-golam/#comment-486381</link> <dc:creator>tash</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:31:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.altfg.com/blog/film-reviews/operation-thunderbolt-menahem-golam/#comment-486381</guid> <description>Andreas makes criticises the cinematic craftsmanship of the movie, however, I differ entirely on the point, it was enjoyable and all the more so because in its essential elements the movie is factually accurate.
A group of idealistic militants took a vessel by force, and threatened the lives of over one hundred randomly selected passengers, except for one common thread: all the passengers they earmarked for execution unless certain demands were met were of Jewish heritage.
Andreas intimates that there is some factual context missing from the movie. He implies that the threat by these hijackers to murder these people of Jewish ancestry could somehow be justified (just a little, just a little bit, with these words:
&quot;Thus, Jews are either poor victims or brave warriors, while terrorists are mean, grenade-carrying people with neither raison d&#039;être nor taste in clothes or sunglasses&quot;.
Therefore, if we knew a little about the &quot;raison d&#039;être&quot; we could sympathise more with the threat to murder these Jews? The movie is deficient in this respect?
I wonder, at what point can we not just draw a line and say, group punishment of innocent civilians is just wrong, treating the matter on a case by case basis.
Andreas, if you have a moral story to tell and think you can do better, let us know when the film is finished.
In the meantime, this was an excellent relaying of the essential events of a horrifying criminal act where astonishingly the victims were spared from harm by an decisive and bold government instructing an amazingly well-trained and organised military unit.
True that not everything Israel does is beyond condemnation, but this is a nation of people who since World War II and prior have struggled to survive against some incredibly hostile actions. There are others who in turn have suffered at the hands of Israelis in their struggle to survive. Andreas, go and tell that story. But this one is a complete and neatly wrapped package, not too ambitious for the time and attention span of a mainstream cinema going audience.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andreas makes criticises the cinematic craftsmanship of the movie, however, I differ entirely on the point, it was enjoyable and all the more so because in its essential elements the movie is factually accurate.</p><p>A group of idealistic militants took a vessel by force, and threatened the lives of over one hundred randomly selected passengers, except for one common thread: all the passengers they earmarked for execution unless certain demands were met were of Jewish heritage.</p><p>Andreas intimates that there is some factual context missing from the movie. He implies that the threat by these hijackers to murder these people of Jewish ancestry could somehow be justified (just a little, just a little bit, with these words:</p><p>"Thus, Jews are either poor victims or brave warriors, while terrorists are mean, grenade-carrying people with neither raison d'être nor taste in clothes or sunglasses".</p><p>Therefore, if we knew a little about the "raison d'être" we could sympathise more with the threat to murder these Jews? The movie is deficient in this respect?</p><p>I wonder, at what point can we not just draw a line and say, group punishment of innocent civilians is just wrong, treating the matter on a case by case basis.</p><p>Andreas, if you have a moral story to tell and think you can do better, let us know when the film is finished.</p><p>In the meantime, this was an excellent relaying of the essential events of a horrifying criminal act where astonishingly the victims were spared from harm by an decisive and bold government instructing an amazingly well-trained and organised military unit.</p><p>True that not everything Israel does is beyond condemnation, but this is a nation of people who since World War II and prior have struggled to survive against some incredibly hostile actions. There are others who in turn have suffered at the hands of Israelis in their struggle to survive. Andreas, go and tell that story. But this one is a complete and neatly wrapped package, not too ambitious for the time and attention span of a mainstream cinema going audience.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
