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'On the Road' Below Estimates, Kristen Stewart-Robert Pattinson Furor

On the Road movie Garrett Hedlund Sam Riley'On the Road' weekend box office figures below estimates

On the Road, toplining Garrett Hedlund, Sam Riley, and Kristen Stewart, and directed by Walter Salles, opened to disappointing figures this past weekend in North America: an estimated $39,550 at four locations, according to (updated) figures found at Box Office Mojo. On the Road's per-theater average was a quite modest $9,888 per site. (Image: Garrett Hedlund, Sam Riley On the Road.)

On the Road's opening-weekend box office take is particularly disappointing when one considers that the film was directed by the well-regarded Walter Salles, among whose credits are two key road movies of the last 15 years – Central Station (1998) and The Motorcycle Diaries (2004). And that it features TRON: Legacy actor Garrett Hedlund; in addition to Viggo Mortensen, Amy Adams, and Kirsten Dunst in supporting roles; and Twilight actress Kristen Stewart doing things that Bella Swan could only dream of doing with Edward and Jacob.

I haven't been able to find On the Road's box office estimates for the last three days. Though not guaranteed, chances are the film's figures improved on Christmas Day, as that has been a regular pattern. We'll only find out for sure once IFC Films makes those figures available.

On the Road box office post: Lots of angry comments

Now, my previous two-part post about On the Road became one of Alt Film Guide's most commented posts in months. Why? For two reasons:

a) Those with a strong sense of moralistic outrage but little-to-no sense of basic ethical principles sent a barrage of comments filled with ad hominem attacks against either Kristen Stewart or myself – or both. (These have been duly deleted and the commenters in question have been banned.)

b) I dared to compare the U.S. opening-weekend box office performances of On the Road and Cosmopolis. (Needless to say, my comparisons to Amour, The Impossible, Central Station, and The Motorcycle Diaries went unnoticed.) As a result, I became enmeshed in lengthy discussions with assorted Robert Pattinson fans who expressed outrage at the Cosmopolis / On the Road comparison and at my raising the issue that on its opening weekend Cosmopolis was helped by the Robert Pattinson-Kristen Stewart-Rupert Sanders-Liberty Ross Quadrangle Scandal.

The Attack of the Moralistic Brigade and bias accusations

Regarding “item a),” there isn't much I can say except that holier-than-thou moralists are some of the most venomous, most repulsive, and, really, most dangerous people on the planet. That's no exaggeration. Take a good look at history – up to the present day – and you'll see that I'm right.

Now, do Alt Film Guide and myself have a “pro-Kristen Stewart bias”? Well, as much as I have a pro-Norma Talmadge bias. Or a pro-Tyrone Power bias. Or a pro-Susan Sarandon, pro-Pierre Fresnay, pro-Anna Magnani bias. Or an anti-Clint Eastwood bias, for that matter. I love watching Anna Magnani; I don't love watching Clint Eastwood. If that's having a “bias,” then I'm biased. If that's merely having one's likes and dislikes, and expressing one's opinions about issues, then, horrors, I'm a human being with a functioning brain.

Check out my (very negative) review of Eastwood's Oscar-winning Million Dollar Baby. One trade-magazine critic sent me a note (I should have kept it…) calling my commentary “the most idiotic film review I've ever read in my 200 years as a film critic.” (Okay, I'm paraphrasing a bit here.)

Now, was I being biased? Had I expressed my dislike for Million Dollar Baby merely because I saw Clint Eastwood's name attached to it, that would unquestioningly have been a form of bias. But I disliked Million Dollar Baby for a variety of reasons, as explained in my review. And if you, like that trade-magazine critic, don't agree with me, that doesn't necessarily make you biased either. It could just mean we have different likes and dislikes. Nothing wrong with that.

As for accusations that Alt Film Guide gets “paid by Kristen Stewart and her people” because we dare not judge or attack her private life … Hell, I'd be thrilled if Kristen Stewart (or any of “her people”) has even heard of us – though I doubt very much that either she or they has/have.

The positive articles I've recently written about Kristen Stewart have been the result of two things: a) I enjoy watching her – in fact, she's one of the few current performers that I truly enjoy; b) I utterly despise moralists and judgmental morons with no lives.

Robert Pattinson CosmopolisRobert Pattinson fan comes out

Now, when it comes to “item b),” there's much I can and probably should say / clarify. I'll try to make this as brief as possible, so my “clarification” won't be nearly as long as the comments section in this On the Road post. (Image: Robert Pattinson Cosmopolis.)

First of all, I must grudgingly come out as a Robert Pattinson fan. Why grudgingly? Because my admission may come across as if I'm trying to either appease or make peace with the rabid segment among Pattinson's fans, to beg their forgiveness, compassion, and understanding. That's not the case at all. I want those demented, monstrous jerks away from this site (and from our Twitter account).

Now, before I proceed I want to make clear that I'm fully aware that every star has their share of rabid fans. We've been mercilessly badmouthed by some Kristen Stewart fans in the past – we still are. In fact, we've been called names by fans of just about everybody, from Steven Spielberg and Mel Gibson to John Cassavetes and Louise Brooks. We also get attacked by rabid haters whenever we say something positive about a performer or director or screenwriter they abhor. It's how it goes; the Internet offers a great – if more than a tad disturbing – glimpse into humankind's (safely anonymous) sociopathic tendencies.

On Christmas Eve, for instance, one individual sent us a lengthy comment bashing Tom Cruise and Jack Reacher. I looked into it and discovered that that same comment had been posted in dozens of other sites. In other words, someone spent the days before Christmas posting an online comment berating and ridiculing Tom Cruise. Why? Why indeed.

Back to Robert Pattinson: I find him a highly capable actor – I thought he was excellent in the widely panned Bel Ami and I even enjoy his moody, gloomy Edward. In interviews, Pattinson comes across as funny, witty, warm, unpretentious, unaffected. A rarity among movie stars (and human beings in general).

That's the reason I enjoy writing about both Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart. I actually like them – and that's not at all how I feel about the vast majority of early 21st century Hollywood movie stars, including lots of highly-regarded names, whom I find either uninteresting or downright unwatchable.

Cosmopolis and On the Road: Why the comparison?

Now, back to Cosmopolis and On the Road. Why the comparison? For those who've had trouble understanding what, in my view, should have been obvious, here's why:

a) Both Cosmopolis and On the Road debuted at the Cannes Film Festival.

b) Both Cosmopolis and On the Road were distributed in the United States by a relatively small indie company (Cosmopolis' eOne Films – whose parent company, eOne, is big in Canada and the UK [they distribute the Twilight movies] but not in the U.S.; On the Road's IFC Films).

c) Both Cosmopolis and On the Road are uncommercial, highly personal English-language projects, featuring a loose, episodic, stream-of-consciousness narrative – one in which automobiles serve as a major setting.

d) Both Cosmopolis and On the Road were directed by well-respected filmmakers (David Cronenberg / Walter Salles), and feature a “name” supporting cast (Juliette Binoche, Jay Baruchel, Mathieu Amalric and others in Cosmopolis / Amy Adams, Viggo Mortensen, Kirsten Dunst, and others in On the Road).

e) Both Cosmopolis and On the Road had similar budgets (Cosmopolis $20m; On the Road $25m).

f) Both Cosmopolis and On the Road received mixed reviews in North America. Among Rotten Tomatoes' top critics, Cosmopolis has a 50 percent score and 5.7/10 average (28 reviews); On the Road has a 42 percent score and 5.9/10 average (19 reviews).

g) Both Cosmopolis and On the Road feature two major Hollywood celebrities in key roles, both of whom also starred in the highly popular Twilight movie franchise: Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart.

Of course there are many things that are radically different in Cosmopolis and On the Road. But, undeniably, there are enough similarities between the two movies for them to merit a comparison. Much like one could compare, say, the box office performance of Irene Dunne's Theodora Goes Wild and Carole Lombard's My Man Godfrey, even though the two 1936 screwball comedies were made at different studios, by different directors and screenwriters, and featured different stars, supporting players, and storylines.

Kristen Stewart On the Road Marylou Garrett HedlundPlatform releases

Platform releases are those when a distributor “tests the box office waters” before spending extra cash opening the film in more markets / locations. In North America, Los Angeles and New York are the two urban centers – at times with the addition of Toronto – where micro-platform releases usually take place. (Image: Kristen Stewart On the Road, with Garrett Hedlund in the background.)

Movies distributed in that manner, such as Cosmopolis and On the Road, open at only a handful of theaters. If the per-theater averages are good – or great – the film expands; i.e., it opens in more theaters. But what's a “good” or “great” per-theater average? That depends on the exact number of venues; remember, all things being equal, the smaller the number of theaters the higher the per-theater average should be.

Different platform releases: On the Road vs. The Impossible

For comparison's sake: starring Naomi Watts and Ewan McGregor, Juan Antonio Bayona's The Impossible opened in North America (coincidentally via Twilight's Summit Entertainment) on the same weekend as On the Road. The Impossible grossed $143,818 at 15 venues, averaging $9,588 per site. That's $300 less than On the Road. So, does that mean On the Road is the more successful movie? Not at all. Remember: On the Road was screening at four locations; The Impossible at 15 – that's nearly four times as many. Hence, if the two movies had the same level of box office success On the Road's per-theater average should have been much higher than The Impossible's.

If a film in platform release opens with a modest per-theater average – say, below $20,000-$30,000 for a movie at 2-6 locations – there's a very good chance that movie will have a small expansion. Or no expansion at all. At times, the distributor will merely keep the movie at a handful of theaters, but in different locations – e.g., dropping two New York venues while adding one venue in San Francisco and another in Denver; the next week, dropping San Francisco and Denver, while adding Miami and Detroit, and so on, for a few weeks.

The Cosmopolis case

That's basically what happened to Cosmopolis after its solid first-weekend take ($23,446 average at three sites as per Box Office Mojo) plummeted following the film's expansion to 63 locations on weekend no. 2 (a meager $2,429 per-theater average). Two weeks later, only 45 theaters were showing Cosmopolis in the U.S. Two weeks after that, only nine.

In sum, if a movie in platform release doesn't find its audience on its first or second weekend out, almost invariably it will either have a very small expansion or none at all. “Oh, but fans can't drive ten hours to watch a movie.” No, not fans who live in Utah and want to catch a movie in Los Angeles. But those fans who live in the L.A. area wouldn't have to drive that long, not even during rush hour. They are the target audience of platform releases. If those fans buy tickets, then distributors feel secure that more fans elsewhere will do the same; if they don't, distributors may not want to increase their distribution / marketing expenses to release potentially unprofitable movies in smaller markets.

The Kristen Stewart-Rupert Sanders 'Scandal'

In my On the Road box office post this past weekend, several commenters took umbrage with my remark that the Kristen Stewart-Rupert Sanders to-do helped Cosmopolis on its first weekend out in North America. Now, do I have hard proof that it did? Of course not. One would need to interview those people who bought tickets.

But stop and think for a moment: eOne Films is releasing Cosmopolis in the United States in mid-August. Following the scandal in late July, Robert Pattinson remains “in hiding” for several weeks and then resurfaces for the New York Cosmopolis premiere, and later is interviewed on Jon Stewart's The Daily Show. The global media covers the event as if it's the Second Coming.

Kristen Stewart On the Road premiereKristen Stewart and Rupert Sanders 'Scandal' and the box office

Are we to believe that Cosmopolis didn't have its visibility dramatically increased at the time? That countless people who had never heard of the film and couldn't care less about Robert Pattinson's romantic life or Twilight role suddenly became aware of the existence of Cosmopolis because of the Kristen Stewart-Rupert Sanders to-do? That a potentially wider audience was reached that could theoretically feel inclined to check out David Cronenberg's movie, whether because of Pattinson, Cronenberg, author Don DeLillo, the storyline, any of the film's supporting players, or all of the above? What's so far-fetched about that? (Image: Kristen Stewart On the Road New York premiere.)

That, in fact, might also help to explain Cosmopolis' dramatic box office drop on its second weekend. The ten-fold expansion came too soon, especially considering that the novelty had worn off; after all, Robert Pattinson had already made his television appearances and had rung the bell at the New York Stock Exchange the week before. Then what, without strong word of mouth and/or eOne's publicity machine working full force to maintain Cosmopolis in the public consciousness?

Hollywood scandals and the box office – and as movie history

But how dare I mention The Scandal? That should become as unutterable as certain slurs, spelled out like the S— word or something. Shouldn't we only discuss what takes place on screen and that's it? Well, I'm not sure in which galaxy you live, but on Planet Earth, what happens off screen affects – oftentimes radically so – what we get to watch on screen (and how we get to watch it, too).

Imagine someone discussing Cleopatra without mentioning the Elizabeth Taylor-Richard Burton affair and the behind-the-scenes goings-on. Or discussing Douglas Sirk's mother-daughter melo Imitation of Life, one of Universal's biggest pre-1960 hits, without mentioning Lana Turner's daughter fatally stabbing Turner's hoodlum lover Johnny Stompanato and the highly publicized trial that ensued. Or discussing Husbands and Wives without talking about the nasty Woody Allen-Mia Farrow breakup. Or, back to Elizabeth Taylor, talking about Cat on a Hot Tin Roof's stupendous box office performance without mentioning that the film opened at the height of the Elizabeth Taylor-Eddie Fisher-Debbie Reynolds to-do. The list goes on.

'The Scandal' and On the Road

Now, unlike some ardent Pattinson / Cosmopolis “defenders” insist, I don't believe the scandal helped On the Road for the simple fact that Walter Salles' movie opened five months later. The scandal is now old news. Had On the Road opened back in August, I'm quite sure its opening-weekend box office results would have been more impressive.

Oh, but Kristen Stewart was recently featured in all those premieres and awards-season roundtables and photo-ops. Yes, mostly followed by her fans, spread out all over the world. What would have truly helped On the Road at this time of year, in Los Angeles and in New York City, would have been strong local reviews; tons of billboards, and TV, print, and online ads; plus a few awards here and there. None of that happened.

Box Office reports

But why discuss box office reports? Who cares about box office grosses? Cosmopolis is a great movie. On the Road is a wonderful movie. What does it matter if Cosmopolis bombed in the United States and failed to get even close to reaching its $20 million budget at the worldwide box office? What does it matter if On the Road opened with highly disappointing figures in North America and may have failed to even match half its budget at the global box office?

Well, I'm sure that those films' investors and distributors think it matters. That David Cronenberg and Robert Pattinson and Walter Salles and Garrett Hedlund and Sam Riley and Kristen Stewart probably think it matters as well.

As for those who don't care, well, they should simply avoid reading box office articles. That would take care of their problem – because we certainly don't have an issue with that subject matter. And remember: No box office (and/or ancillary revenues) = no movies. If you believe it's all about “art,” then I have a couple of bridges, half a dozen mountains, and one huge waterfall to sell you.

Oh, well … This turned out to be much longer than the comments section in my On the Road post published last weekend. But that's life.

Kristen Stewart On the Road New York premiere photo via the On the Road Facebook page / IFC Films.

Kristen Stewart and Garrett Hedlund On the Road photo: IFC Films.

Robert Pattinson Cosmopolis photo: eOne Films.

Garrett Hedlund, Sam Riley On the Road photo: IFC Films.

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57 Comments to 'On the Road' Below Estimates, Kristen Stewart-Robert Pattinson Furor

  1. Andre

    @Betty B

    Bear in mind that this article was written in late December 2012, shortly after “On the Road” opened to “highly disappointing” figures. I couldn't have said the movie “bombed” (or “flopped,” so as to avoid repeating the same word twice within the same paragraph) because I didn't have the film's final box office numbers. They'd only become available months later. For all I knew at the time the article was written, “On the Road” might have kept on going for a while or even increased its per-theater tally; such things have happened. But true, as it turned out “On the Road” was as much an arthouse domestic box office bomb as “Cosmopolis.”

  2. Betty b

    These are not all your exact words…I did check the numbers….

    Just a observation of selective words I read your article : On The Road” BO opening numbers were “highly disappointing ” opening in 4 theaters average $9,888 per…. ending with total ending US gross of $744,296 from *Dec/2012 thru *May/2013.
    widest release 107 theaters

    Your description: “Cosmopolis “bombed” in the US ” … yet it opened in 3 theaters 23,446 per… opening weekend total $70,339. Cosmopolis widest release 65 theaters… only in realease from *Aug /2012 thru *Oct /2012 ending US market Total Gross $763,556

    Sorry, When I read your article I did chuckle. (highly disappointing vs bombed)
    I did find your observation somewhat puzzling. It is what it is. Take Care :-)

    p.s. I Did observe OTR Internationally did gross a little more but it also had time on its side. Thanks again

  3. David Pujols

    Griteengs!
    Art Film Guide's Teams.
    On the Road Film is one of the best Kristen Stewart celluloid.
    Here and in other film, she work with all the knowledge about she want to do, because she can made that, with all her soul and their heart!.
    Sincerely, I wish alls the God's blesses for her!.
    Thanks!.

    David Pujols

  4. kidkennedy

    Okay. Couple and compare away. But know that doing so entices the fanatical sects of both fandoms……..you know…..the “monstrous jerks”.
    Personally, I think bringing their individual work together in an article is a little disrespectful of their individuality. It has a tabloid smell to it.
    I don't blame the fiercely private and independent Hepburn for being pissed.

  5. didi

    Theatre tickets aren't cheap, so when people decide to buy one, the big majority will do it because they're interested to see the movie and /or its actors, not because of their private life. The actor can attract more attention on premieres the way it happened to Rob Pattinson in NY, but it's not the kind of attention they're looking for and not the kind that improves the ticket sales IMO. Fans of Rob and fans of Cronenberg planned to see the movie anyway. Many didn't like it and that did the round. It's an unaccessible film, a love it or hate it movie that's getting more positive attention now since the DVD is released in many countries. Word of mouth is doing its job on twitter and moviesites. I guess the positive buzz will grow within the years to come.
    Real Cronenberg fans didn't stay away because of Pattinson as a poster here wrote, he was praised by most critics and Cronenberg himself on many occasions.
    Didn't see On the Road, so I can't say anything about that. Don't think the scandal influenced its BO numbers either.
    What would've been a disaster was the scandal happening like a month before Breaking Dawn II. That would've influenced the BO for sure.

  6. Andre

    @Vanquish

    Thank you. And thanks for the Kristen Stewart quote. I hadn't seen that. She put it very succinctly.

  7. Vanquish

    What we forget is Kristen isn't even a lead in OTR. Yes out of all the female actors she appears the most, but it's Garrett Hedlund and Sam Riley who carry the weight for this movie. So I don't get why people are pinning the box office numbers on her. But then again any success isn't because of Kristen and every failure is because of Kristen. That's the mentality of haters.

  8. Vanquish

    Andre, fantastic piece. Your were merely reviewing OTR's progress and then you were attacked by “starving sh*t eaters” as quoted from Kristen. Honestly these people who attacked you and attack Kristen need help. They are bitter, awful little girls who never grew up. I'm a fan of Kristen's work and am looking forward to see what OTR will be like.

  9. spider

    To me a list of BIG HUGE MONUMENTAL box-office hit entails the first 20 positions of that list.
    The rest are not monumental.
    “Both movies you've mentioned have in the cast the two parties involved in these scandals.”
    And what part of “both” wasn't clear? And all those scandals you have mentioned? They covered magazines for months. I wrote nowhere that the fact the Taylor-Burton scandal broke a year before release diminished its effect by june 1963. You interpreted it that way, don't put words in my mouth. And how come the Stewart-Pattinson's scandal is way in the past when it comes for “On the road”? Did you miss the circus of the reconciliation?
    And you keep ignoring that we're no longer in a time when cheating is a big scandal.
    You claimed the “big” expansion “Cosmopolis” had its second week was because of the scandal (because according to you it raised the average in the first week). “Cosmopolis” had the same kind of expansion reserved for a movie that had a lower average and less promotion, by the same distribution company. “Cosmopolis” never went over 65 venues, too. It was a disappointment? Sure, I'm not hiding it. I'm arguing your point about the scandal helping it.
    Despite expectations + a scandal “Cosmopolis” drew an average of $23,000 in the opening week. You keep contradicting yourself too in these comments, “A dangerous method” did better than “Cosmopolis” because it was more commercial, but “On the road” isn't?
    Don't try to confuse, deflect or spin what you or I wrote.
    And you're last response to me? Very mature.

    @Liz0
    The Taylor Burton scandal helped “Cleopatra” but the Stewart-Pattinson scandal hurt “On the road”? Those fans driving to see “Cosmopolis” would have done it without the scandal too.

  10. Andre

    @Parker

    Use a calculator and add up the figures per country.
    And next time, take a look at the DATE next to the “Total” figure. Box Office Mojo's international totals aren't always fully up to date.

    As for the rest of your inane rant, no calculator can help with THAT…

  11. Andre

    @spider,

    If you think $533m (as per that Box Office Mojo page you linked to) — the 40th highest-grossing movie in history — doesn't indicate A BIG HUGE MONUMENTAL box-office hit, then I'm at a loss for words. You've set a really, really high bar. $534m, perhaps??

    So, your online research led you to discover that the Elizabeth Taylor-Richard Burton scandal broke out in spring 1962. “Cleopatra” opened a year later. Wow. Do a little more research, please. You'll then discover that Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor were both married at the time. That they both had to get divorces. That they both went on to get married. You wanna bet all that didn't happen in summer 1962? Not to mention the fact that the way Taylor and Burton were acting on the set was a key reason why “Cleopatra's” costs escalated beyond belief? Hell, Fox later *sued* them. More publicity.

    So, Woody Allen was a three-time Oscar winner by 1991. Well, Katharine Hepburn was a four-time Oscar winner by that time. She couldn't open a movie either. Allen's biggest box-office hits BY FAR were in the '70s, plus “Hannah and Her Sisters” in 1986. Most of his movies of the '80s were either box-office misfires or modest performers. He was NOT a box-office magnet in 1992. NOT. But following the Allen-Mia Farrow scandal, TriStar decided to open “Husbands and Wives” at 865 locations — a lot of theaters back in those days, especially for an arthouse movie. As a result, “Husbands and Wives” had the highest-grossing opening weekend of a Woody Allen-directed movie EVER (not adjusted for inflation) at the North American box office.

    Both movies you've mentioned have in the cast the two parties involved in these scandals.

    Did you read the article? Opted to ignore “Imitation of Life”? Was Johnny Stompanato featured in that movie? No? He was dead, wasn't he? Oh. What about “Cat on a Hot Tin Roof”? Did Elizabeth Taylor frolic with Eddie Fisher and Debbie Reynolds in that movie? No? Oh, it was Paul Newman, wasn't it? And Burl Ives. And Judith Anderson. And Jack Carson. And Madeleine Sherwood. But no Eddie and Debbie. Oh.

    “A late quartet” (distributed by eONE, opened on November 2, 2012, with Seymour Hoffman & Walken) opened in 9 theaters with $8,364 average; the second week it was in 63 theaters (just like Cosmopolis) with an average of $2,881, that convinced eONE to open in 100 theaters for its third week. I don't think they went out of their way with Cosmopolis because of the scandal (as you've written somewhere in the comments?).”

    If you think a $2,881 per-theater average at 63 theaters would “convince” a distributor to nearly double the number of theaters for their ***box-office bomb***, then … check out the per-theater averages for Woody Allen's “To Rome with Love”: $3,861 at ****806**** locations. Any further expansions? No? “Little White Lies”: $8,551 per-theater average at three locations. Second weekend an expansion to 12 theaters, average drops to $3,586. Maximum number of theaters? 14. You'll find many more such small / nonexistent expansions when a movie averages less than $10,000 per-theater in platform releases or $5,000 in limited releases. (Officially, “limited releases” would be fewer than 600 venues; I've added Allen's film because it ended up as a very narrow “wide release.”)

    For eOne to expand a box-office bomb like “A Late Quartet” to 100 locations was a mistake, unless they got sweet deals from exhibitors. It's ***costly*** to expand small movies to dozens (or a hundred+) locations. The system is set up for the big studios and their blockbusters. Or perhaps parent company eOne Entertainment has loads of cash to spare. Or perhaps there were contractual obligations with the film's producing company.

    Just found this. Check out this “Variety” report:

    variety.com/article/VR1118061664/

    Considering their relatively high expectations — $3m-$5m per film — eOne Films must have been VERY disappointed with the box-office performances of both “Cosmopolis” and “A Late Quartet.”

    Now, PLEASE please please: Before making any more wrongheaded comments filled with either misinformation or misleading info, spend a little more time online or at your local library learning about film history so I won't have to spend MY time correcting all your mistakes.

  12. spider

    @Andre
    True, “Cleopatra” was #1at the box office in 1963 but it was not a big huge monumental box office hit. DOMESTIC GROSSES Adjusted for Ticket Price Inflation: http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm . And an online research tells me the Taylor-Burton Scandal broke in spring/june 1962. Didn't “Cleopatra” open on july 12nd, 1963, in the US, following much hype and rumors of its astronomical cost too?
    Allen was a 3 times Oscar winner by 1991. Other Allen's movies that were in more limited release performed better than that movie in their opening week.
    Both movies you've mentioned have in the cast the two parties involved in these scandals.
    And again one'd think eONE would have opened at least in 6-8 venues to take advantage of the attention (especially in NY) and make at least a little more money, no? (I wasn't talking about dozens of releases).
    And look at this:
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=alatequartet.htm “A late quartet” (distibuited by eONE, opened on November 2, 2012, with Seymour Hoffman & Walken) opened in 9 theaters with $8,364 average; the second week it was in 63 theaters (just like Cosmopolis) with an average of $2,881, that convinced eONE to open in 100 theaters for its third week. I don't think they went out of their way with Cosmopolis because of the scandal (as you've written somewhere in the comments?). How much promotion did “A late quartet” get?
    These scandals help publicity and advertisement, they don't “likely” help the box office in my opinion. How many heavly pubblicized movies don't do that well at the box office? When you talk about tv ratings, that may change.
    The Sandy relief concert appereance of Stewart (the one who got more attention out of this scandal) couldn't be considered close to the scandal when it comes to pubblicity in NYC?

  13. Parker

    Just a question about earlier post about On The Road, the one where you passively aggressively trashed Cosmopolis and credited its opening of more than twice On The Road's to Kristen's publicly cheating on Rob with a married father (or, in your words, the Rupert Sanders/Kristen Stewart/Rob Pattinson “to-do” - cuz sure - why not throw some blame at Rob too!!!). You noted that according to BOM, On The Road has grossed over $8m internationally. Just wondering if there's some other BOM site that I'm missing. According to the one I go to, it's grossed, $5.9m internationally (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=ontheroad.htm). Do you have some other source?

  14. danielle

    I do think the scandal could have helped. And then on the other hand I do think word of mouth probably helped. I read from one fan site, fans had dragged their partners to see it. The same people went and saw the film multiple times. The scandal may have even influenced the so-called rabid fans to go and see it when it was released in New York, just to prove some kind of point.

    I'm not sure what influenced ticket sales. I'm just glad people saw it. And I wish more had seen 'On The Road', but never mind! Like I've said elsewhere in a comment on another post of yours, I cannot wait for the DVD release in the UK. I made what I call a mistake, of buying 'Welcome To The Rileys' on DVD from France or Germany, and then so many months later it was released in the UK on DVD. I always find buying DVDs from within your own country, increases the sales in that country, rather significant.

    Also, once again, enjoyed this post.

  15. Liz

    Let's face it:
    1. many Cronenberg fans refused to see Cosmopolis because Rob was in it.
    2. whether Rob fans knew the above or not, many of them made plans to drive hours to go watch this movie to support Rob - because they felt Rob needed to be supported, whether for his career or personal life
    3. many Kristen fans didn't go to see On the Road because of many of these reasons
    1. Kristen isn't the leading star of this movie
    2. some of them don't want to see Kristen in this type of role yet
    3. (the Robsten fans) feel that Kristen needs to be supportive but not as much as Rob

    BOTH Cosmopolis and On the Road are superb film but for those thinking that the scandal didn't slightly help Cosmopolis or slightly hurt On the Road are in denial

  16. danielle

    Daisy Kenyon, bravo for your first comment!

  17. Yancy

    I do not believe any scandal had anything to do with what happened with Cosmopolis. Robert Pattinson has a huge fan base. If you saw the Water for Elephant premiere and the Cosmopolis premieres, fans were lined up for days.

    @larry411 just did a thorough analysis of the Cosmopolis DVD and gives it high marks. I believe that Cosmopolis's subject was a bit weird and how these indies are rolled out by the promoters have an effect as well.

    Do you not think the sex scene had anything to do with it? I believe so. The curiosity of seeing Pattinson in such a different role is what sold this film along with it being a Cronenberg film as well. I believe you stating that some scandal was the result of the opening box office is a bit facitious to say the least. That is the easy out. A simpleton's analysis. The scandal was still hot news the following weekend too. Robert was still promoting the film on Jimmy Kimmel.

    This story seems to be for hits on your site. It's sensational to say the least. It's a moron's analysis of a film's box office. Did you not see the boos of the audience during a NY Times Q & A when someone tried to even bring up the scandal? That shows that even Robert's fans were not even remotely interested in it. Robert is a hot star in Hollywood, people were curious to see the film…period.

    That scandal had little to nothing to do with its opening. There is no statistics to support what you are stating. Any audience poll that I have seen was that the audience that viewed Cosmopolis were mainly fans of Robert. The scandal had no effect.

    So, unless you can show the pollesters and their analysis that Cosmopolis's opening day success was due to some scandal, I want to see it. So, since you failed to quote any audience polls to that effect, your analysis is negated.

  18. Lynn

    LOL what are they sniffing? Cosmopolis was one of the biggest flops in Croneneberg's career. It's not hard to understand that none of the Twilight actors can open a movie. OTR promo was based heavily on the Stewart's tablod persona and that was completely wrong. In the end, not Stewart or RPatz are stars outside the Twilight bubble. That's is the ultimate truth. ALL their indies are big flops. Now please go back to the reality, will you?

  19. Georgia

    @andre
    Thank you for responding. I just see the obscene media coverage as overshadowing rather than boosting. I don't believe the average, non industry, non fan, person understood there was a film in the midst of the gossip. Don't get me wrong, Cosmopolis was never going to be a blockbuster but should have done similar numbers to other limited release Cronenberg films and should have probably equaled at least its France totals in the US.

  20. Andre

    First of all, thanks everyone for writing — whether or not you agree with my statements above.

    @Sam

    I agree that Kristen Stewart helped to sell “On the Road” and that her presence made the movie a bigger “success” — or less of a disappointment (on opening weekend) — than it would have been otherwise, considering most of the reviews. However, I disagree that the “Scandal” hurt “On the Road.” Too far in the past…

    @Daisy Kenyon

    Points well taken, thank you. One correction: The much more commercial (in terms of narrative) “A Dangerous Method” was a *much* bigger hit than “Cosmopolis” both in North America and elsewhere. ADM earned about five times as much as “Cosmopolis.” ADM's budget — according to reports — was slightly lower than “Cosmopolis,” around $18m. True, the film didn't earn its money back at the box office, but it got close.

    I only wonder how much longer David Cronenberg will be able to get $20m financing for his films if they don't turn a profit — or at least break even. But then again, there's always the home video market. Perhaps Cronenberg's movies do really well in that regard — I haven't seen any figures, as “official” ones are hard to come by.

    And finally, glad we see eye-to-eye re: adding context to our articles — i.e., making comparisons between films / performers, etc. Thanks again for writing. (And I hope Taylor Lautner will get to star for Gus Van Sant. That should be interesting.)

    @Spider

    You're dead wrong about “Cleopatra” — which was HUGE, MONUMENTAL, GIGANTIC box-office hit. BUT, it was also the most expensive movie ever made, not only up to that time, but once adjusted for inflation up to our present time. (I have trouble believing the figures for Sergey Bondarchuk's “War and Peace.” I believe the Russian media exaggerated its costs. They probably learned that from Howard Hughes and his “Hell's Angels.”)

    So, would approx. $540m domestic gross be considered a hit? Yes? That's “Cleopatra” in adjusted (2012) U.S. dollars.

    As for eOne opening “Cosmopolis” at dozens of theaters in the aftermath of the scandal… Get real. They open it at four locations, “Cosmopolis” gets a solid — though hardly spectacular per-theater average — and then they expand to **63** locations the following weekend. An **unwarranted** move considering the film's good-but-not-outstanding $23,000 per-theater average. We all know what happened then.

    Now, would the scandal per se have made “Cosmopolis” a hit? Nope. (See “Husbands and Wives” remark below.) And I don't say that in the article. But I bet that it helped inflate the film's first-weekend figures to a certain extent. (See “Husbands and Wives” remark below.) Could I be wrong? I admit I could. But I believe I'm not.

    Note: Woody Allen in 1992 was *hardly* a box-office magnet. But “Husbands and Wives” had a fantastic opening for an Allen movie. But then it went downhill rather rapidly…

    @Cissy

    Sorry, but your remarks clearly show you continue to NOT understand the meaning of the expression “Platform Release.” Since that seems to be a choice on your part, I'll respect that and I won't even try to argue some sense into your clueless statements.

  21. Andre

    @Georgia,

    Your points are well taken. Thank you for writing. Much appreciated.

  22. Andre

    Just wanted to thank everyone who posted comments — heck, I'm in a good mood, so that includes even those who disagreed with me.

    @Danielle,

    “On the Road” didn't do well in the UK. I've posted a few international box-office figures elsewhere… Here:

    http://www.altfg.com/blog/movie/garrett-hedlund-on-the-road-movie-cosmopolis/

    @Mi

    The “Los Angeles Times” and “The Hollywood Reporter” called Robert Pattinson a “cuckold”? Well, if they did (I haven't seen that), stop reading them. Now, I saw TONS of tabloid/tabloidized articles viciously attacking Kristen Stewart — and without looking for them as I stay away from that kind of shit. Tons. I'm flabbergasted you missed those.

    @Jen

    I've never read/seen interviews in which Kristen Stewart puts down other performers' deeds or charity work. But one thing I did read: the “rape” deal. She did NOT compare “being photographed” to getting raped. At all. That's a blatant distortion of what she actually said. I actually wrote a piece about it at the time:

    http://www.altfg.com/blog/movie/kristen-stewart-apologizes-for-rape-metaphor/

    As for Kristen Stewart badmouthing her *crazed* (as in, “not sane”) fans, I can understand that if she has really done so. (I haven't seen any such — direct — remarks.)

    But guess what? Robert Pattinson implies the same in his and Stewart's **brilliant** “Eclipse” commentary. You need to read between the lines, but it's there when they mention “The Fans.”

    @Connan

    I agree. “On the Road” will likely do much better on DVD/VOD.

    Once again, thanks everyone for writing…

  23. Andre

    Note: In response to a couple of comments, let me clarify that at Alt Film Guide we *****only***** use ratings/averages from Rotten Tomatoes' TOP CRITICS. Top. For obvious reasons.

    @Danielle

    Thanks for writing. Glad you found my reasoning logical (or at least acceptable).

    @kidkennedy,

    I see nothing wrong with discussing both Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart together in an article — or many articles. Much like I see nothing wrong with discussing Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers together, or Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis, or Norma Talmadge and Constance Talmadge, or Ingmar Bergman and Liv Ullmann, or Katharine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy.

    All of those (and more) had either careers or personal lives — sometimes both — intertwined, at least for some time. People have written *books* about them as professional/off-screen partners.

    I've never, ever heard anyone complain: “How dare Garson Kanin write a whole book on Hepburn and Tracy? They're separate actors with separate minds and separate movies!” Not ever. (Though Hepburn herself was pretty pissed off at him.)

  24. kidkennedy

    You want the “monstrous jerks” to stay away and yet you have done nothing here except bait them.
    They are separate people…..separate actors with separate minds and separate movies……write about them as such. To do otherwise is to invite the most psychotic fans of all. Those in-love with their love, obsessed with their relationship.
    Not either of these movies were successful in capturing the heart of their stories from the writings of Don D or Jack K.

  25. Bonboy

    Iam not a twihard sorry but iam Kristen fan so i would comment to her movies not other her costars and dont compared them bec i dont care her costar on/of screen…fact!!!

  26. Sam

    I am disappointed that I have not been able to see On the Road because it is not playing in my city. I am anxious to see it. If it had not been for the promotion that Kristen did for On the Road it may have made less money at the box office. In fact, when Kristen first mentioned that she was going to be in the movie, she insisted that she had only had a very small part. The tabloids made it her movie, and then she stepped in to promote it. I agree that the scandal benefited Cosmopolis but may have hurt On the Road.

  27. Daisy Kenyon

    Re reading your article and comments: As you say Cosmo. received some free publicity/advertising due to said “scandal” But how it affected box office in terms of selling actual tickets, is unknowable. Differing theories like posted here-could be right-or wrong. It's all Unprovable. But I tend to think it did not have much affect on actual box office. Very slightly at most.
    Because Cosmo is a David Cronenberg film; He is well known and most definitely has an ardent following. Those folks want to see the latest DC film asap and they did. To the best of my knowledge, DC has never gone out of his way to make a hit movie for the mainstream. So why would anyone, including investors, believe much differently this time. His last film Dangerous Method has similar budget and box office to Cosmo. DM stars 3 big names who command press, they did promote it, yet it did film did not make its money back 20 million budget back. at least not with the latest numbers. DC still continues to get financed though and has another project lined up.

  28. Andre

    @ellenj55

    Thanks for writing. But please understand that I have not linked “all the fans in a negative way.” Our problem at Alt Film Guide has been with a few rabid fans. And not only “Twilight” / Robert Pattinson / Kristen Stewart fans. That's clearly explained in the article.

    You wrote: “I purposely find movies the whole cast has made.”

    May I suggest “Against the Current,” co-starring Elizabeth Reaser (Esme Cullen). You should check it out if you haven't already. Not a great movie, but an interesting one. And Reaser is really good in it.

    Thanks again for writing.

  29. Andre

    @L

    Can you read English? If you can, maybe you just forgot your glasses…
    Else, I don't know HOW you could have thought I'm blaming Kristen Stewart (or The S_____ Word) for “On the Road's” disappointing opening-weekend box-office take in North America. Or the fact that the movie has had a disappointing run internationally.

    It's fascinating that even when we write factual, neutral, or positive articles about a performer, or director or movie — there's always, and I mean *ALWAYS* — some crazed fan who totally distorts everything in their head and accuses us of poo-pooing their Beloved Icon.

  30. ellenj55

    I get your article. Very informative. But I take you to task about the fans. I'm a 63 year old grandmother , who I think was the last person on earth to read the Twilight Saga. I loved the books. Then watched the movies ans wanted to compare how true they were to the books. I loved the movies too! I discovered this British actor who is a wonderful actor. So I decided to study the author ? I bought her illustrated guide to her books. I found out some worth while info and how she created this world. It became more of a study for me, on how the films were made and all that entails. Very much a fan of the whole cast. I don't consider myself a crazy Twihard. Please don't link all the fans in a negative way. The stars are entitled to their private lives. I feel I'm only expecting a good performance for the price of my ticket. Not all of Twilight fans are crazy. It's a very small part of it. It's the comment by a few on websites that do tend to scare me. They are cowards setting behind a keyboard making the aweful comments. What I deplore are webloids making up such aweful lies about the stars. This is what makes me mad. They are owed nothing. One thing for sure I loved Bel Ami, and Cosmopolis. Rob is great in both. I have seen all of Kstews movies and find I like her too! I purposely find movies the whole cast has made. Everyone of the cast is very talented. I guess the Twilight Saga has a great love story. I guess I'm a sucker for romance. Nothing wrong with that.

  31. L

    Maybe you should footnote the fact that On The Road is not a “Kristen Stewart” film. She's in it for a brief amount of time on screen. The film is Sam Riley's and Garrett Hedlund's. Kristen extended herself in the promotion of the film because she believed in it. She's barely in it. So why are you giving her the brunt of its box office failure? Why are you not placing the “box office blame” on the men who are the stars of the film? Who are in the film the most? Yes, Stewart plays Marylou who was an intertesting person in the life of Kerouac but to say that some “so-called scandal” about someone's personal life which has nothing to do with a film she's barely in is somehow her fault is ridiculous.

  32. Georgia

    Just to add…. Not all attention is good attention. Cosmopolis' opening was scheduled well before the events in July. The build up to the opening, even with fans, ended up being diminished. You may disagree, but, I do not believe talk of the affair equated to attention for the film. The numbers at the three sites on opening weekend were significantly enhanced by post screening appearances, discussions with Cronenberg which ignited intense interest by already focused fans. Those aware of and anticipating the opening were not impacted either way by the promo. Those that could have further enhanced the numbers never had their interest piqued by the televised promo because the focus was never the film, which, as I said, was an afterthought for those trying to get a scoop. The excitement for the film was lost in the frenzy over the scandal. I do think the story for OTR is hardly finished, it opened during a crowded weekend further hindered by the pending holiday. It should do decent numbers if allowed to find its audience something the media and Eone failed to allow Cosmopolis to do.

  33. Georgia

    I will disagree about the affair helping Cosmopolis. I know of many who were asking last month if Cosmopolis was ever released in the US. When told of the August release they recall Pattinson's appearances on the Stewart or the morning shows but say they thought he was there because of the affair. They do not recall the film being discussed because, on most shows, it was an after thought. The hardcore fans , Cronenberg's and Pattinson's, were aware of the opening. Those that could of had interest piqued with the promotion were lost by the media coverage of the scandal. The poor distribution by Eone didn't help either. I live in a major city where it opened in the second week of release. There were absolutely no print or television ads and absolutely no posters, etc. The only 'advertising' was the reviews one of which was extremely positive and one that was negative. Two weeks in the past, the initial, muddied promotion had no effect. Also, obviously little thought meant in to the release locations. Many fans I know we're unable to see the film until its VOD release this past week.

  34. danielle

    You've listed some good reasons for why you compare Cosmopolis and On The Road. I think people need to accept that sometimes their films will be compared, and considering your list of reasons, you've compared them not by a random spur of the moment act.

    I also think @Freda that even if the author of this article compared these two films with a variety of films that features all these elements, readers would ignore all the other films being compared, and still focus on the comparison between Cosmopolis and On The Road.

  35. danielle

    There is only one film that I didn't particularly find interesting to watch with Kristen in. That was 'In The Land of Women'. I haven't been able to see 'Cutlass' though I'd love to. Every other movie I have enjoyed, even her relatively small part in 'Jumper', I loved the film. She picks brilliant movies, and whether she has a lead, supporting or minor role, I usually tend to love films she is in. 'On The Road' included. And I cannot wait to own it on DVD once it is released in the UK. I was wondering, do you know what the results are for OTR in the UK?

  36. danielle

    To be honest @Jen even if someone is ungrateful you shouldn't hate them. I'd understand disliking someone for allegedly being ungrateful, but to hate them? I have to in turn judge people like you that say you hate her. Hate is a strong word.

  37. Sandy Cheeks

    You are my hero. Thank you for finally speaking up!

  38. Freda Ericssen

    The main thing that puts off your readers is that you write about Stewart and Pattinson as a “package deal”. Twilight is over, they have separate careers and different fanbase (Twihards are not included 'cause they don't care about non-Twilight films). If you want hits on your page - keep on doing the same thing, if you want to avoid the fan rage - don't put them together, general public is sick of them as an on/offscreen couple. That's it.

  39. Daisy Kenyon

    “I don't see why you're so surprised someone disagreed with your comparison with the Cronenberg's movie.” says poster Spider.

    I don't think Andre is surprised or cares about someone disagreeing with him, I think his issue is that he does not want to be lambasted over it. I would imagine he, like myself, is more surprised that any article or film review online about Ms Stewart is necessarily flooded in the comments section with moralizing and severely harsh criticism about Ms. Stewart's private life and morality. Even now, there is a comment below referring to her “slutty” dress and immoral behavior.

    I think it is fair to compare and contrast any indie films, and interesting and legitimate to look at the career trajectory of all the Twilight stars as they leave the franchise and take on indie films and mainstream films. We could and should include Taylor Lautner here too but he hasn't done much compared to Stewart and Pattinson. Will be interested to see if Lautner does end up in the rumored Gus VanSant project.

  40. Bonboy

    @jen hahahaha jen poor woman!!! iam boring read hater comment, why dont you go back to your blog robsessed!!!

  41. Bonboy

    Obviously they are ugly people who's attack you and Kristen on internet!!!

  42. Adriana

    Preach it!! I admire you so much for telling it like it is and calling things by what they are! Bravo!! *claps*…We all have a right to our opinion…and we also have a right to have them respected! My sentiments EXACTLY!

  43. Mi

    You should read comments/articles written by middle aged critics/bloggers/reporters about Robert when the scandal broke.Now you can say what ”attack” means.Some of them(from The Hollywood Reporter,The Los Angeles Times) were so smart that called him ”cuckold”,I've never read that some journalist from tabloid press would have called Kristen ”wh@re”.Those journalists were defending Kristen and at the same time they insulted and ridiculed Robert, they forgot he was a victim in all this scandal.Those(mostly guys)didn't even mention Sanders in their articles,didn't say anyting about his ”talent” as director or insulted him on private level,just nothing,like he hadn't been a part of this scandal.People will continue to comment,because you write about R&K together.And you know that,you figured out how get hits.

  44. Jen

    “there isn't much I can say except that holier-than-thou moralists are some of the most venomous, most repulsive, and, really, most dangerous people on the planet.”

    And Kristen Stewart is one. I get you have never read any of her interviews because she has a constant habit of putting fellow actresses and peers down. No one is as honest, real and as non-Hollywood as she is. Everyone else is fake. Heck, she even had the audacity to devalue some of other people's charity work (when she's barely doing any). So when she turns around to be the biggest Hollywood cliche it's hard not to enjoy a little Schadenfreude. She calls her fans retards, compares being photographed to rape, and her cussing to Tourette's. She's so arrogant and self centered with zero awareness. YET she's one of the most overrated actresses of her generation and has Hollywood constantly blowing smoke up her behind with no merit for it. She still gets jobs because of her many connections (because lets be real, unless she's riding a franchise with other A lists she can't fill those seats) while other far better actresses don't. Those are very valid reasons why people hate her. People may hate cheaters but they hate overrated, hypocrite ungrateful brats more.

  45. sam

    Fair enough concerning OTR and the scandal. Now this might sound old school but I'd suggest that simple word of mouth has helped Cosmopolis. It's appealing to the arthouse crowd, the intellectuals (pseudo and otherwise) and, most importantly for Rob, it's attracting a male audience. I don't believe that 20 something male urban crowd is in anyway invested in the cheating scandal. As a NYU student, I'm hearing professors and fellow students talking about this film. In fact, I know several who have seen the film multiple times as it's the sort of movie that insists on your full attention and thoughtful analysis.

    Also - can we say it? - Cosmopolis is simply a better movie. But good or bad aside, by nature it will appeal to a small crowd. I would have thought OTR would attract a wider audience. I suspect Kristen's box office draw doesn't reach far beyond Bella.

  46. gg

    I had to drive 2 hours to see Cosmopolis. There was hardly any Promotion , the one in New York brought some attention but Pattinson was grilled about the affair at every interview he gave and could barely talk about his Movie while Stewart promoted OtR with her slutty dresses for almost a year . Nobody even hinted anything about that woman's desire to go and pick up a married dude for sex. Its some twisted society

  47. spider

    Funny.
    In your educative piece you fail to mention that “Cleopatra” wasn't a box office success, for years considered a flop. And the movies you mentioned were all released in the past century. Things have changed, Stewart is nowhere near the status Woody Allen or Liz Taylor had back in the day, there's a scandal every month and online piracy. All those movies weren't limited releases too.
    Wasn't Stewart at the Sandy relief concert, a highly publicized even in New York? I've seen “On the road” being mentioned in every article mentioning this scandal for 4 months now.
    Had eONE shared your opinion wouldn't have they tried to open “Cosmopolis” in more than 4 theaters? They had 3 weeks to do that.
    You fail to stress the fact that IFC chose to open “On the road” against heavy competition from limited and wide releases. “Cosmopolis” had not the same competition back when it opened in august and not the same amount of promotion. “Cosmopolis” didn't get only mixed reviews, it got some negative but some really positive ones too. These facts are less relevant than a scandal when it comes to box office numbers for indipendent movies? I don't see why you're so surprised someone disagreed with your comparison with the Cronenberg's movie.

  48. natt39

    I have morals but the difference is I have a heart and I am not judgemental like some people are.Kristen is a good actress and I enjoy her work and look forward to seeing her in future movies.And my hats off to you for speaking up against all these venom spewing people.

  49. maria

    so Cosmopolis succes in comparison with OTR was because K-Rupert story? Think again! Cosmopolis is a interesting dinamic movie, while OTR is a long,boring jazzy story. Cosmopolis has great critic reviews in Europe and US while OTR was a flop at Cannes. Looks like it ll be a big flop in US also. Not to mention Cosmo didnt have a chance of a big promo, while OTR promo was bigger than any blockbuster's

  50. Audrey

    Thanks so much for this article!!

    Enough of morons and stupid people who only know to offend and insult famous because only think all know about them thanks to tabloids.

    I don´t understand why they waste their time talking about a person they don´t like in all gossip sites. With respect we can opine about everything, we can say I don´t like Kristen Stewart in her last movie por example but why talking about her private life.

    If private life are very important for us so we shouldn´t see more films because each actor, director, etc… has got a sleketon in his closet…who care their private life?? The important is their work.

  51. L

    Regarding “item a),” there isn't much I can say except that holier-than-thou moralists are some of the most venomous, most repulsive, and, really, most dangerous people on the planet. That's no exaggeration. Take a good look at history — up to the present day — and you'll see that I'm right.

    Couldn't agree more. Have serious film goers even bothered to read the book before getting on their high horse?

  52. Connan

    Bravo! As always I enjoy reading your blog/reviews (though not always agree with your opinion on different aspects - and it's how it's supposed to be). Kristen is one of my fave actresses now, especially after OTR. It sucks that BO disappointed, I can see a lot of reasons, but somehow I think DVD sale should be good.

  53. danielle

    I enjoy reading your posts talking about Kristen as an actress and as a person. I'm a fan of hers, and just like you, I don't think there's any other actresses performances that I've enjoyed the most. I enjoy pretty much all of her roles and movies that she has chosen.

    Thank you for drawing attention to a post where you received a lot of negative comments. And thank you for giving your interpretation as to why they were so negative and angry. They usually are known for “foaming-at-the-mouth” when anyone is being positive about Kristen.

    Usually I stay away from comment boards on film or celebrity related sites for the sole reason if I comment, I'll no doubt get into an argument with the people who foam-at-the-mouth. But I plan to comment on your posts about Kristen in future. I want to help spread appreciation for your posts, and I'd like to show that there are fans out there.

  54. Luacheia99

    As usual, good reading!

    all articles!

    You made my day! LMAO

  55. Cissy

    The 4 measly days Cosmopolis promoted in New York was helped and mentioned by the Scandal according to you but the 1 million premieres Kristen attended wearing sheer outfits to get attention and news stories and using Breaking Dawn's promotion to highlight On the Road is hardly mentioned. Your bias continues to show. The scandal did not help. People do not watch movies based on actor's personal lives. What “Helped” was the promotion occurred in New York and LA and they had TV ads in New York. The big drop the following week was explained by the fact that the many new places where Cosmopolis opened did not get any real promotion or TV ads. If you looked at just the New York/LA drop, it was normal and not skewed. The skew occurred because it opened in places where it wasn't as promoted as New York/LA. Please continue to defend your obvious bias though. It's amusing to read someone so lacking in awareness.

  56. Freda Ericssen

    Guys, you are obsessed with Stewart-Pattinson thing. You are overanalyzing.

  57. Liz

    You're right. The reason they continue to comment or rather attack is because you haven't had anything bad to say about Kristen.