- 7 quotes – part 1: Lauren Bacall and Joan Collins ponder: Seriously, how much of a movie legend is Nicole Kidman?
- 7 quotes – part 2: Republican George W. Bush, the man largely responsible for the disastrous Iraq War, has been reelected president of the United States. Where does one look for the silver lining?
- 7 quotes – part 3: How radical a life-changer was/is Alfred Kinsey?
7 quotes - part 1: Lauren Bacall & Joan Collins discuss Nicole Kidman’s alleged Movie Legend status
Feeling lost, depressed, and/or with grave concerns about the global state of affairs? That’s understandable, though we must remember that others are facing more pressing issues. This post, which focuses on “7 quotes” from the movie world, is evidence of that.
Collins, whose film career began back in early 1950s England (I Believe in You, Decameron Nights), recently discussed Best Actress Academy Award winner Nicole Kidman (The Hours, 2002), whose alleged legendary status gave revered Hollywood legend Lauren Bacall (To Have and Have Not, The Big Sleep) the heebie-jeebies at the Venice Film Festival last September.
Here’s the Joan Collins quote via femalefirst.co.uk (where the quotation marks seem to have been misplaced).
“To be a legend you’re usually dead or exceedingly old. The legends are Marilyn Monroe, James Dean, Cary Grant, Katharine Hepburn – there are so many. As for the furor over whether Nicole Kidman is a legend, I don’t think she’s old enough or dead enough.”
7 Quotes - Quote #2: The fierce debate about Nicole Kidman’s movie legend status began after a “journalist” asked Lauren Bacall what it felt like to be a Screen Legend working with another Screen Legend (Kidman) in Jonathan Glazer’s psychological drama Birth, in which the Howard Hawks discovery and Humphrey Bogart widow plays the mother of Tom Cruise’s ex.
“She’s not a legend. She’s a beginner [Nicole Kidman has been in movies for more than two decades]. What is this ‘legend’? She can’t be a legend at whatever age she is. She can’t be a legend, you have to be older.”
7 Quotes - Quote #3: Now, Nicole Kidman has the following to say (via The Early Show) about her unexpected – legendary or otherwise – stardom:
“I just can’t believe that I’m even in a position to be making movies, to be honest. There’s times when I go, ‘I can’t believe somebody wants me to be in their movie.’ So, whatever power I have (in the business) at the moment, I want to give to the directors that I believe in.”
Nicole Kidman movies
A true legend or not, Nicole Kidman has been in movies since 1983, the year the Australian dramas Bush Christmas and BMX Bandits came out.
Since that time, Kidman has been seen in about 30 features, among them:
- Robert Benton’s Billy Bathgate (1991), with Dustin Hoffman.
- Stanley Kubrick’s Eyes Wide Shut (1999), with then-husband Tom Cruise.
- Baz Luhrmann’s Moulin Rouge! (2001), with Ewan McGregor.
- Stephen Daldry’s The Hours (2002), with Meryl Streep and Julianne Moore.
- Lars von Trier’s Dogville (2004), with an all-star cast ranging from Harriet Andersson and Thom Hoffman to Blair Brown and none other than Lauren Bacall.
Kidman was shortlisted for the 2001 Best Actress Oscar for Moulin Rouge!. She won the following year for The Hours.
Lauren Bacall explains herself
Spring 2005 update: Lauren Bacall’s comments at last year’s Venice Film Festival were perceived as an impolite dismissal of Nicole Kidman’s two-decade-plus career. According to Bacall, that hadn’t been her intention.
7 Quotes - Quote #4: As found in an April 2005 issue of The Guardian, Bacall told interviewer Susie Mackenzie:
“What I meant was that her career is just beginning [sic]. She is wonderfully talented, a working actress. I hate these labels, I hate categories. Why do they have to burden her with all that? … Legends are all to do with the past and nothing to do with the present.”
Bacall then added that Humphrey Bogart, who died in 1957, is “more of a legend now than ever. And he has been dead almost 50 years.”
Another bit of advice from Lauren Bacall: If you want to become “a legend in your own lifetime,” you’d better do like Greta Garbo and disappear from view.
7 quotes - part 2: Following George W. Bush reelection, look for the silver lining
7 Quotes - Quote #5: In other quotable film-related news, following the reelection of U.S. President George W. Bush (have you heard of his mysterious connection to Jesus?), a Republican who had previously ascended to the White House despite having lost the popular vote, documentary filmmaker Michael Moore tells the world at large – and the tens of millions of Americans who didn’t vote for the Iraq War co-orchestrator – to look for the silver lining.
“The official mourning period is over today and there is a silver lining – George W. Bush is prohibited by law from running again.”
Looks like that’s the best Moore can come up with. Things may get better four years from now.
Michael Moore quote via eonline.com.
7 quotes - part 3: Radical life-changer Alfred Kinsey
Looks like nearly half a century after his death at age 62, revolutionary and hugely controversial Sexual Behavior in the Human Male co-author Alfred Kinsey, the subject of Bill Condon’s generally well-regarded biopic Kinsey, continues to change people’s lives.
7 Quotes - Quote #6: For instance, here’s screenwriter-director Condon – who’s openly gay – referring to the subject of his latest film while at the Kinsey premiere and Kinsey Institute fund-raiser in Bloomington, in the American Midwestern state of Indiana:
“I know my life is radically different because of him.”
At the event, “as a very modest thank you” Condon donated $25,000 to the institute, which is associated with Indiana University.
7 Quotes - Quote #7: And here is another Kinsey-related quote, this one by Paul Gebhard, 87, a former member of Alfred Kinsey’s research team.
“For artistic reasons, they took some liberties with facts, but basically, it’s an excellent film.”
Gebhard went on to say that Liam Neeson, who stars as the title character, should get an Academy Award for his efforts.
In Bill Condon’s Kinsey, Gebhard is portrayed by Best Supporting Actor Oscar winner Timothy Hutton (Ordinary People, 1980).
Also in the Kinsey cast:
Bill Condon quote via The Associated Press. Paul Gebhard quote via another AP report.
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Joan Collins in Dynasty image: CBS Television Distribution.
Danny Houston, Cameron Bright, Alison Elliott, Lauren Bacall, and Nicole Kidman Birth image: New Line Cinema.
Liam Neeson, Peter Sarsgaard, Chris O’Donnell, and Timothy Hutton Kinsey image: Fox Searchlight Pictures.
“7 Quotes: Joan Collins + George Bush Silver Lining + Radical Alfred Kinsey” last updated in December 2020.