- Kristen Stewart & Robert Pattinson box office comparison: Following the recent release of the rock biopic The Runaways, costarring Stewart, and the romantic melodrama Remember Me, starring Pattinson, who has fared better with moviegoers (and critics) while away from The Twilight Saga?
Kristen Stewart & Robert Pattinson box office: Following the release of The Runaways & Remember Me, which Twilight Saga lead has fared better?
Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson have been a joint box office magnet – along with third wheel Taylor Lautner – in the two Twilight Saga movies released to date, Catherine Hardwicke’s sleeper blockbuster Twilight (2008) and Chris Weitz’s brighter-than-expected New Moon (2009). And in three months, their millions of ardent fans will be lining up for David Slade’s mega-blockbuster-to-be The Twilight Saga: Eclipse.
But while away from the characters of Bella Swan and Edward Cullen, which one of the two Twi-actors have come out on top at the domestic box office following the March release of the low-budget indies The Runaways, costarring Stewart, and Remember Me, starring Pattinson in his first non-Twilight star vehicle?
The answer is Robert Pattinson, though neither Remember Me nor The Runaways has fared well at all with domestic audiences. This oft-updated article attempts to explain why.
Remember Me box office disappoints
Despite its modest $16 million budget (not including marketing and distribution expenses), Remember Me – for which Robert Pattinson received an executive producer credit – has been a sizable box office disappointment.
A Summit Entertainment release domestically, the New York City-set romantic melodrama – Oscar winner Chris Cooper (Adaptation, 2002) described it as “a sort of love letter to New York” – should eventually end up in the black, but only after international and ancillary revenues are tallied.
Mostly negative reviews have been no help. After three weekends out, Remember Me has brought in only $17 million; with quite a bit of luck, it’ll reach $20 million. Another minus: The movie isn’t doing all that well overseas either, though it has yet to open in a number of major markets.
Besides Robert Pattinson and Chris Cooper, Remember Me also features Emilie de Ravin, Pierce Brosnan, Tate Ellington, Ruby Jerins, and Oscar nominee Lena Olin (Enemies: A Love Story, 1989). Allen Coulter directed from a screenplay by Will Fetters (reportedly with rewrites by Jenny Lumet).
Update: Remember Me ended its run with $19.1 million in the U.S. and Canada, and a better than expected $37 million internationally. Worldwide total: $56 million – likely enough for the Robert Pattinson star vehicle to (at least) break even at the global box office.
Top international markets: U.K./Ireland ($5.5 million), France ($3.5 million), Russia/CIS ($3.5 million), Germany ($3.3 million), Italy ($3 million), Brazil ($2 million), Belgium/Luxembourg ($1.5 million), Australia ($1.2 million), and Mexico ($1.1 million).
The Runaways box office is a far bigger disappointment
Named after the 1970s all-girl rock band, The Runaways stars Dakota Fanning and Kristen Stewart as, respectively, vocalist Cherie Currie and guitarist/vocalist Joan Jett. Budgeted at only $10 million, the Apparition release will find it impossible to break even at the box office.
On its opening weekend (March 19–21), The Runaways took in $805,000 at 244 theaters – or $3,299 per venue, a low average for a movie in limited release. For comparison’s sake, at 2,212 locations, Remember Me averaged $3,656 per venue on its (pretty mediocre) debut weekend. All things being equal, the fewer the number of screens the higher the per-screen average should be for movies of equal box office appeal.
Admittedly, The Runaways may have suffered because of its R rating – drugs, expletives, a lesbian kiss – which probably made it more difficult for Kristen Stewart fans in their early-to-mid-teens to check it out. Remember Me was rated PG-13.
Wider release likely to be short-lived
The Runaways will be going wide in April, but expect the per-theater average to drop dramatically. With luck, the movie will reach $7–8 million domestically. Not helping matters, international prospects for a film about a rock band that most people around the world have never heard of are – at best – iffy, especially considering that potential draw Kristen Stewart is featured in a role that is the very opposite of The Twilight Saga’s Bella Swan.
And that leaves ancillary – mostly domestic – revenues (DVDs, pay-per-view, etc.) as the only potential avenue for The Runaways to have any chance whatsoever of recouping its production cost.
Directed by Floria Sigismondi, who also adapted Cherie Currie’s Neon Angel: A Memoir of a Runaway, The Runaways also features Oscar nominee Michael Shannon (Revolutionary Road, 2008), Riley Keough, Stella Maeve, Scout Taylor-Compton, Johnny Lewis, Keir O’Donnell, Brett Cullen, and Oscar winner Tatum O’Neal (Paper Moon, 1973).
Update: The Runaways ended its domestic run with a paltry $3.6 million. Internationally, it collected a measly $1.1 million, for a worldwide total of $4.7 million.
Its top international markets were Australia ($326,000) and France ($316,000).
Using their own calculations, the website The Numbers estimates that The Runaways earned $6.8 million in the home video market. If at all accurate – and barring some sort of contractual caveats (e.g., overly generous international sales?) – that would still leave the Dakota Fanning-Kristen Stewart rock drama very much in the red.
Are Kristen Stewart & Robert Pattinson box office stars?
Following the phenomenal worldwide success of the Twilight Saga movies, Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson – and to a lesser extent Taylor Lautner – have been hailed as the latest Hollywood superstars. In fact, just a few weeks ago Stewart and Pattinson were featured in a Vanity Fair piece about the top 40 Hollywood moneymakers of 2009.
Yet, as discussed above, Stewart’s The Runaways and Pattinson’s Remember Me – their first non-Twilight releases since the bigger-than-expected global success of New Moon last fall – have turned out to be domestic box office underperformers. And there have been other such duds in the past year as well.
Filmed about three years ago but released in February, Udayan Prasad’s The Yellow Handkerchief was plugged as a Kristen Stewart star vehicle even though it also features Best Actor Academy Award winner William Hurt (Kiss of the Spider Woman, 1985) and A History of Violence leading lady Maria Bello. After five weekends, the $15.5 million psychological drama has taken in less than $200,000.
In May 2009, several months after the original Twilight came out, Paul Morrison’s Little Ashes, an Anglo-Spanish drama about a fictitious love affair between Salvador Dali (Robert Pattinson) and Federico García Lorca (Javier Beltrán), collected a total of $481,000 north of the Rio Grande.
Compared to these two titles, Greg Mottola’s well-regarded $10 million budget comedy-drama Adventureland, featuring Jesse Eisenberg, Kristen Stewart, Ryan Reynolds, and Kristen Wiig, was an all-out blockbuster: The April 2009 release earned $16 million domestically and another $1.1 million elsewhere.
Twilight blockbusters, non-Twilight bombs?
Some may see a pattern here: Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson in Twilight = full houses; Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson away from Twilight = empty houses.
Their obvious conclusion would be that Stewart and Pattinson are box office draws only within the confines of the Twilight Saga franchise. But however obvious this conclusion, it would also be a myopic one.
After all, had Sandra Bullock played Joan Jett in the low-budget, R-rated The Runaways – hardly a critical favorite – it’s unlikely that the rock biopic would have fared all that much better domestically even though Bullock, just recently named 2009’s Top Domestic Box Office Draw, surely has a larger adult following than Kristen Stewart.
For instance, Douglas McGrath’s Infamous, which opened in limited release to generally positive reviews in 2006, grossed only $1.1 million despite Bullock’s presence in one of the key roles.
Along the same lines, had Will Smith played Salvador Dali in Little Ashes, the what-if “biopic” might have become an even bigger box office dud.
John Wayne in drag: Hit or flop?
The point is: With relatively few exceptions, box office stars are box office stars only in the right vehicles. That’s the way it has always been. Marilyn Monroe as Medea would have flopped back in her heyday and the same goes for John Wayne as a screaming drag queen back in his heyday. Or Tom Cruise in roles not molded to his persona (e.g., Paul Thomas Anderson’s Magnolia, Stanley Kubrick’s Eyes Wide Shut).
Here’s one example from Hollywood’s studio era: In the 1930s and early 1940s, Clark Gable starred in a series of major hits for Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, always playing variations of the same macho ladies’ man. But John M. Stahl’s (romanticized) 1937 historical drama Parnell, featuring Gable as an idealistic Irish politician who ends up dead, turned out to be an embarrassing flop despite the presence of another box office draw, Myrna Loy, as the female lead.
And here’s an example from the late 20th century: During her heyday in the 1990s, Pretty Woman and Sleeping with the Enemy star Julia Roberts failed to open the critically panned period piece Mary Reilly, while her presence also failed to turn Woody Allen’s whimsical Everyone Says I Love You into a commercial hit.
The indie handicap
Lastly, one must point out that Remember Me and The Runaways – in addition to Little Ashes, The Yellow Handkerchief, and Adventureland – are all low-budget productions without big-studio backing. (Despite Twilight and New Moon, Summit Entertainment can’t be considered a “Hollywood major.”)
And low-budget/indie films – especially foreign ones like Little Ashes – have a tough time going mainstream in the American market unless they have “uplifting” storylines like The Full Monty and Little Miss Sunshine. Or they are cheesy horror flicks abetted by clever, viral marketing campaigns, e.g., The Blair Witch Project and (the Paramount-distributed) Paranormal Activity. Or they get lots of awards season attention, as has recently been the case with Precious and Crazy Heart.
Without any – however distant – Oscar buzz, Bella Swan as a tough (for all purposes, lesbian) rocker and Edward Cullen as a troubled rebel who dies in the September 2001 terrorist attacks are hardly the types of characters to lure Kristen Stewart’s and Robert Pattinson’s respective fan bases into theaters. (About half of New Moon’s initial audience was younger than 21; 80 percent was female.) Or, for that matter, to lure those who deride their work because of their Twilight Saga credentials.
In all, it’s much too early to tell whether Stewart’s and Pattinson’s film careers will fade to black after the Twilight Saga runs its course. But if they find their way – Sean Connery, who became wholly associated with the James Bond franchise, managed to do it after tripping and falling numerous times – they could be around for quite some time.
Who received better reviews?
Now, who came out on top in terms of critical acclaim, Kristen Stewart for The Runaways or Robert Pattinson for Remember Me?
The clear answer is Kristen Stewart, though both Stewart and Pattinson have been commended for taking chances while away from the Twilight Saga.
Kristen Stewart may have made more of an impression on critics because her Joan Jett looks and acts like the exact opposite of her wishy-washy Bella Swan, ever torn between Robert Pattinson’s vampire and Taylor Lautner’s werewolf in the Twilight flicks. Here are a couple of brief samples:
“Stewart, known mainly for mumbling and stumbling through the Twilight movies, is the revelation here,” wrote Mick LaSalle in the San Francisco Chronicle, while the Chicago Sun-Times’ Roger Ebert declared himself a new believer that the actress “could handle such a tough-as-nails character” as the punkish computer hacker Lisbeth Salander in David Fincher’s planned American remake of Niels Arden Oplev’s Swedish thriller The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Not the new James Dean
Robert Pattinson’s more conventional Remember Me rebel was far less well received, with a number of critics making unflattering comparisons to James Dean’s antihero portrayals in East of Eden or Rebel Without a Cause. A typical comment is that of Michael O’Sullivan in the Washington Post:
In attitude, if not aptitude, Robert Pattinson in Remember Me comes across like a latter-day James Dean. Playing Tyler Hawkins … the Twilight hunk fills the screen with cigarette smoke, stubble and hooded green eyes, but little else.
Depending on release patterns, following The Twilight Saga: Eclipse Kristen Stewart should next be seen in Jake Scott’s psychological drama Welcome to the Rileys (which, like The Runaways, was screened at this year’s Sundance Film Festival), while last month Robert Pattinson began working on Declan Donnellan and Nick Ormerod’s period drama Bel Ami.
“Kristen Stewart & Robert Pattinson Box Office” endnotes
Unless otherwise noted, “Kristen Stewart & Robert Pattinson Box Office: Who’s Tops?” box office information via Box Office Mojo. Budget info – which should be taken with a grain of salt – via BOM and/or other sources (e.g., the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, Screen Daily, The Hollywood Reporter, Variety, Deadline.com, etc.).
Comments about Remember Me, The Runaways, and other titles being hits/profitable or flops/money-losers at the box office (see paragraph below) are based on the available data about their production budget, additional marketing and distribution expenses (as a general rule of thumb, around 50 percent of the production cost), and worldwide gross (as a general rule of thumb when it comes to the Hollywood studios, around 50–55 percent of the domestic gross and 40 percent of the international gross goes to the distributing/producing companies).
Bear in mind that data regarding rebates, domestic/international sales/pre-sales, and other credits and/or contractual details that help to alleviate/split production costs and apportion revenues are oftentimes unavailable, and that reported international grosses may be incomplete (i.e., not every territory is fully – or even partially – accounted for).
Also bear in mind that ancillary revenues (domestic/global television rights, home video sales, streaming, merchandising, etc.) can represent anywhere between 40–70 percent of a movie’s total take. However, these revenues and their apportionment are only infrequently made public.
Robert Pattinson Remember Me image: Myles Aronowitz | Summit Entertainment.
Kristen Stewart and Chris Weitz New Moon image: Kimberley French | Summit Entertainment.
Kristen Stewart and Jesse Eisenberg Adventureland movie image: Abbot Genser | Miramax Films.
“Kristen Stewart & Robert Pattinson Box Office: Who’s Tops?” last updated in October 2022.
I have seen the Runaways today. It blows you mind out! Amazing job of the director and director of photography. it is so artistic and beautiful. No exploitation of female characters for the sake of it. Music? Fell like being at the concert. Did they sing or had help, I do not know. Winner.
Director of photo. deserves an Oscar. I cried and went emotional.Camera crew played madic and seduction with the audience. I felt like being at a art show more than in the movie house.For the first time I have felt the presence(like a gohst) of the director at work.Wheather is was a dog’s poop or zooming into two onions , or eyes- the same atrful magic.
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i love dakota and Kristen
I have watched this movie more than 10 times already because of Pierce Brosnan and Robert Pattinson, in this movie Robert shows he is a good actor and Pierce Brosnan has been my best for ages!
My daughter watched the Twilight movie, that is how she became a fan…I saw Remember Me, and that is how i became a fan, Robert was excellent.
Robert will never be Edward to me, as he still seems to be, unfairly so, to the critics…He will become Jacob in WFE…Georges in Bel Ami, and Eric in Cosmopolis…He will also continue to be a very wonderful young man inside and out…Something hollywood could use…Someone unhollywood, who just really wants to act, and maybe oneday even be appreciated…With Edward in the distant past…Though he was a blessing, he was also a curse…
IT was AMAZING OMG ROB PATTISON IS AMAZING like i cant describe, i felt rly related with this movie, *history* and yeahhh WE WANT MORE OF ROBERT PATTISON!! fuck twilight he sould do more of these kinds of moviess!!
I was lucky enough to see The Runaways and TGWTDT and only because I live in NYC where almost every film shows. App. handling of TR was awful. Hollywood is remaking TGWTDT for an American audience, even though the original is excellent. Those two films contain the greatest female roles I’ve seen all year. I would love to see Kristen Stewart take home a Golden Globe and Oscar nomination for her portrayal of Joan Jett. I hear her other indie WTTR also has early Oscar buzz. This is really her year. The DVD sales will be huge. It’s already being pre-ordered and there’s no official release date, but trust that Sony will get the DVD’s on shelves.
I doubt the conspiracy theory by filmgirl. Robert Pattinson was out of the country filming when TR premiers happened. Also Summit International is distributing the movie overseas so I don’t think they have a problem with it. They will undoubtedly do a much better job at promotion and marketing than App. The movie should do well in Europe, Asia, and Australia. It will be profitable in the end.
Who is running these movies….they are great but no body is getting a changes to see them,, WHY..
you put them in small towns that most cant get to.
they say nationwide and then your lucky if you get 10 movies in a state. that’s not right. it looks like someone wants to see them FAIL. I had to Drive 2 hours just to see the Runaways. and the other2 are not even in my state. I had to go to another state to see them. be fair there are some really bad movies out there that get a hole lot more time and houses to play in.
Lolly is right and I agree. The Runaways was awesome if you were lucky enough to get access to see it AND it was awesomely hobbled by anemic marketing and distribution.
That handling by Apparition is reportedas a contentious mystery. The story is undereported and barely researched in favor of laying the film at the feet of Stewart/Fanning, crossover demographics or the film itself which is totally base and premature. The question is why was an R rated Stewart/Fanning held back from wider release and audiences? What are the terms of Pohlad’s closed book deals with Summit (Twilight)? What happens to Welcome to the Rileys? Why didn’t Pattinson attend The Runaways premiere during his stint with Summit (Twilight, Remember Me). What happens to actresses who go off the Twi franchise map, cut Bella’s hair and get sexually assertive to Cherry Bomb, smooch girls or take movie drugs?
This story is the bra burner of the century, but the reporters are missing it.
I predict that profits and awards for The Runaways is still pending, so stories of the old dinosaur box office sucess or failure are entirely premature. I also think a whopping under reported steamy sum will be made on it as it goes to DVD and TV licensing.
Oh yeah, women won the vote some years ago too.
It’s now leaving the theaters for good in my country (France) but it did quite well in a month and I even have the feelings that some critics who had predicted it would be a failure were a bit in a huff over the good figures. Ha. How stupid can you get? Critics bashed the film here as almost everywhere else, but the huge majority of viewers loved the film. There’s been a kind of grassroots movement, people commenting everywhere to protest against the nasty critics…
The Runaways would have never been seen in one theater without Kristen Stewart and Dakota Fanning. Michael Shannon got his chance to shine so I know he’s thankful too. The movie was awesome. I hope it does well overseas and is a hit on DVD. I didn’t see Remember Me yet because I’m not a fan of Rob or Pierce B. but my friend said it was good so I’ll check it out on DVD. The Runaways was a great filler until Eclipse.
This success of The Runnaways is because Kristen and Dakota, indie movie would never earn that much.
The Runaways is about to open in the UK this summer. I am so excited! I already saw and enjoyed Remember Me. Even though neither film was a huge hit at the American box office, I’ve seen loads of good reviews for Kristen and Robert.
I’ll probably see TR in London, maybe even before Eclipse. I’m glad my favorite couple and movie stars are branching out and getting some critical love. The critics are too harsh on Twilight. It’s just romance. I will be waiting with bated breath for Bel Ami and On the Road.
I also cant wait for the DVD to come out! Wow before you know it REMEMBER ME will make more than $60m once its opens to countries like Japan; China and Korea.
Good job on Will; Rob; Allen and the cast!!!
Keeping proving your critics wrong, Rob. As Chris Weitz said “we haven’t seen a tenth of what you can do on screen” I’m looking forwad to follwoing your career for many years to come. Remember Me is a great movie and will certainly be added to my DVD collection.
Remember Me deserves to be seen by a lot of people. It was a wonderful picture and Robert Pattinson (as well as the rest of the cast) was wonderful in it.
RM is a success..the movie is amazing
Nothing much to add….ya’ll said everything that needed to be said. I just wanted to say that I love this film. I never could get my husband to the theatre to see it with me. Can’t wait for my DVD. I really think that my husband is going to like it. It is a well-made movie, with good, solid performances by all involved. (Also, the RM score, by Marcello Zarvos, deserves an Oscar!)
First off I was a Rob fan who was introduced to Twilight when he became involved in it. I always laugh when Rob haters automaticaly assume all Rob fans are Twilighters or all Twilighters are Rob fans. Do they conveniently forget how vehemently the Twilight fan base rejected the idea of Rob playing Edward? He wasn’t good looking enough to play the mighty Edward.
However, I read the books and the scripts suck. They have yet to produce a cript in the series that truly captures the essense of the books. I’m still waiting.
As for being bombarded with all things Robert I think the site administrator did a better job of explaining what I meant than I could.
I will add that I saw several appearances where Rob & Emilie were suposedly promoting RM, but Most of the questions were about Twilight & Lost. She was asked repeatedly about Lost and how it’s going to end. Plus there was the endless drip drip drip of clips by Summit pimping RM as a chick flick. I think they should have involved the more seasoned actors like Chris, Pierce, Lena more in the promotions. I understand it is a difficult film to promote b/c it’s not the typical feel good joy ride. However, if they did a more comprehensive promotion and it failed, at least they could say they gave it their best shots.
Remember me was a beautiful film. I was wondering where the director was in this one though? I thought Pierce, Rob & Emilie’s performances were excellent - but thought the director didn’t get everything out of Rob they could have… his sense of humor is missing in New Moon, but shows in Twilight-it’s a vital quality of Rob’s and must be shown - if directors are afraid to direct him already, to push him to get the most from him, - not good for his career. Rob’s a smart guy, he’ll succeed despite lack of direction, and hopefully, won’t get sucked into the ego/power trip of other actors and let them get these great performances from him - he’s only just begun.
I absolutely love The Runaways! I have seen the movie twice already. Kristen Stewart is amazing, gives the best performance of her career!! Michael Shannon and Dakota Fanning are brilliant as well. I would completely recommend this film.
Yes of course it’s the studio’s fault that the movie flopped even though we the public were bombarded with everything Pattinson for months and months on end. Twilight fans are so overly dramatic. Don’t worry I’m sure lover boy will make a movie with another studio that will flop and you can blame that studio too and the critics who just don’t understand his genius. I’m sure his Oscar nomination for this film will also get lost in the mail, or so you will tell yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>Yes of course it’s the studio’s fault that the movie flopped
A $16 million movie that has grossed more than $50 million worldwide shouldn’t be considered a flop. Granted, in the U.S. “Remember Me” was a box-office disappointment, but $19 million doesn’t make a small movie — that’s what “Remember Me” is — a “flop.”
>>>>>>>>>>even though we the public were bombarded with everything Pattinson for months and months on end.
“Everything Pattinson” doesn’t mean everything “adequate” or everything “smart” Pattinson. In other words, everything that would make people want to go check out “Remember Me.”
There’s a huge difference between a publicity blitz (mostly related to “Twilight,” in Pattinson’s case) and a dedicated publicity approach that carefully nurtures a “difficult” little movie such as “Remember Me.”
Thanks again Michelle, for your reply on the comment of Dorothy. I wouldn’t say it is the studio’s fault, Remember me is a difficult movie to market ’cause it doesn’t fit in any genre. Not everyone likes this kind of movie and I think the understanding of and the love for the film and his story is more a question of personality than a question of age and gender.
Should the end’ve been told in the marketing strategy? Again, this depends on the vision. Will Fetters told in an interview that they’ve choosen to let the audience unknown of the end as neighter the characters in the movie (nor everyone in real life) weren’t aware of what was going to happen. I can agree with this vision and I see nothing exploitative or manipulative in it. It makes this film unique.
I understand not everyone shares this vision, I understand not everyone loves this film. What I don’t understand is the connection many reviewers and others (Dorothy?) make with Twilight. What have Twilight and Remember me in common exept their leading man? Is it a commonplace refering to another movie when reviewing a new one? So when a critic reviews Alice in Wonderland, is it than normal that he talks more about Pirates of the Caribbean? Because that’s what happened whith Remember me. What I don’t understand either is the cruelty reviewers used to bash the film, without even explain what was so wrong exept the ending. Being a critic doesn’t give you the right to behave as an impudent chap (okay, looked for this in dictionary) as no one has the right to do, it makes life difficult to live in. When you don’t like something than try to explain in a respectful way why. When you don’t like someone (an actor as Rober Pattinso f.e.) than let him be,don’t read about him, don’t comment about him, don’t waste energy on criticizing. Believe me, Robert Pattinson has more politeness and integrity in his little finger than many of his critics have in their whole body.
And for all these reasons Remember me has got a worldwide fan base who’ll defend the film and who’s looking for a way to give recognition at this little underrated masterpiece. Tips are welcome.
English isn’t my native language, sorry for mistakes.
After reading mh comments I must add to mine. I didn’t see anything Pattinson before going to this movie. In fact I didn’t know who he was. Iam not a twilight fan.My friends and associates that went to this movie aren’t either. I don’t follow any “STAR”.I just loved this movie. After seeing Pattinson in Remember Me I feel time will tell. Academy Award???? Yes! with this kind of talent..just a matter of time.
Btw, the 50 mil stat came last week… hopefully RM would have been able to reach 54-55 mil this week…
Great Movie!!! The total box office is 50 million. Although this movie should have made alot more.It has taught me never to pay attention to critics. I don’t know what their problem was but they had decided before this movie was released to give it bad reviews. Everyone I know that saw Remember Me loved it. The cast,the story all was incredible.
I’m thrilled that the box office shows that this movie was worth more than the critics expected it to be. I was disappointed that this tasteful, haunting and beautiful movie was not given the proper marketing it deserved. Thank goodness the international market has taken this movie and run with it giving it all the positive feedback it deserves. Kudos! to the writer of this movie, the directors and actors they were all great.
I am glad this movie made back its money, it was made so well. I think if the marketing plan actually HAD the actors talk about the movie and story, it would have gotten more people into see it. I hope Robert Pattinson does not make any more movies with Summit ever again. It is just really disappointing that because it was not marketed correctly, really bad movies like the “back up plan” will make more money domestically.
“I hope Robert Pattinson does not make any more movies with Summit ever again.”
I second that.
Two crappy Twilight scripts wasn’t enough. Nope they had to ruin Remember Me too. To say that marketing of RM was awful is an understatement.
How many Critics told everybody it will FLOP…They really need to get a new Job because most of them SUCKKKK. RM was a tasteful insight about an event that should remember those who woke up to a day like it was sussposed to be like ever other day and ended in this Tragedy. My Prayers go out to the family again
I love both Rob and Kristen and don’t think of their careers, or their movies, as a competition. Some people are too sensitive and get their panties in a wad over the stupidest things. I haven’t seen The Runaways, but loved Remember Me. Have already pre-ordered my DVD. I am sure that I will enjoy The Runsways, also. BTW, Rob doesn’t have a publicist, so I doubt that he has a PR team.
Wow crazy how Kristen fans always ranting how rude Rob fans are…. and here they are attacking the person who just wrote the facts…
Kristen fans are just good in bad mouthing… but when it comes to supporting Kristen’s project, they can’t do anything much…
With RM’s international success, the real Rob fans emerged as winners!!! thanks to all Rob fans around the world… btw, “real Rob fans” = NOT Kristen haters…
Remember Me is doing well because it is a great movie. Iam not a fan-girl. I didn’t know who R.Pattinson was until i saw the movie. I did see the Runaways. No Comment!
what’s not to love in this movie? don’t even mention Robert’s brilliant acting… now i am just looking forward for getting the DVD.
@alt film guide: thanks for keeping us updated of the BO numbers of Remember me. Robert Pattinson has a big solid fan base who is really concerned about him and his work. When he or his work is judged in an unfair way his fans will defend him like a lioness defends her cubs (lol). So knowing that Remember me is doing quite well, gives a good feeling.
In Belgium/Luxemburg, with only 10-11 million residents, Remember me has grossed almost 1 million. That’s really great but here the reviews were mild and the most reputable newspaper criticized the negative reactions of the American reviewers. I suppose we have a more open mind for little films who are different from the usual ones. It was defenitely Robert Pattinson who caused the appeal of the movie but after viewing many promoted the film to others not only because of Rob’s brilliant performance but also because of the beautiful story and the great cast.
The Runaway has done great for a film that never played on even 250 screens. It is rated R and there is almost no marketing. The fact that it’s kept up its numbers is amazing. How is it ‘fresher’. It came out a week after Remember Me, but Remember Me was still playing in wide release and The Runaways never really expanded. That’s a stupid argument. I’m sure the suits made their money back already and the DVD sales for this thing are going to be huge. I’m assuming they are going to keep it playing for a while in a few theaters to try and cash in on Dakota Fanning and Kristen Stewart when the Twilight movie comes out. I wanted to see this so bad at Sundance, but the tickets were sold out, so I saw Blue Valentine instead which is another amazing indie. Instead of drivel like Remember Me that tries to be indie and arthouse for the state of hipsterness, I would rather support films that actually are.
I saw RM about 6 weeks ago and I still remember it like yesterday. It doesn’t play here anymore so I have to wait for the DVD. EXCELLENT Acting from Rob and Pierre also Caroline and Chris….
Why is it that Kristem Stewart fans always take everything so personally and attack other actors, bloggers to defend her? This blog is not commenting on her acting but just stating the facts about how these two movies have performed. They were after all heavily anticipated. If she is such a great actress, this movie will just be a blip in her long career on Hollywood.
Wow i’m soo glad the movie is doing well, who would’ve thought that the movie would even reach $40mil, its just go to prove that the critics are not always right.
Good work Will, Allen and Rob!!!
Even if The Runaways only made one dollar, it is still a billion times better than Remember Me. I work in films and frequently get free passes. I like Allen Coulter, but Remember Me was one of the worst movies I’ve seen in a while. Everyone was wooden and boring. Robert Pattinson, who I had low expectations for going in, was even worse than I thought he would be. His lines were forced and whispered in a bad impression of someone cool. Emile de Ravin was just kind of there. There was no chemistry between the two of them, despite scenes that should have been passionate. Pierce Brosnan was a wasted character that kept letting his accent slip. Then to top it off, the writer used 9/11 to try to add depth to this trainwreck. It was, in a word, awful. The Runaways, however, had a sleazy 70’s feel, great acting, and a script that left me wanting more. I do agree that the movie should have been about Joan Jett because she is the biggest star out of The Runaways. Kristen Stewart and Michael Shannon kept passing the ball back and forth for best acting. Sometimes they let Dakota Fanning play. I will never forget the movie. I already knew Kristen Stewart could act because of Adventureland and Into the Wild, but I thought she may have forgotten after Twilight. I was glad to be proven wrong. I never suspected Pattinson could act and I was proven right. The UK has sent us so many great talents over the years. They were due for a dud like wannabe Dean. And yes, I’m a guy. We all know Pattinson has zero male fans
@JPM you’re entitled to your opinion and your promotion of the Runaway cause you obviously loved it. Good for you. I might even check it out to see if I agree with you. However I’m always suspect of someone who needs TO DENIGRATE A PERSON IN ORDER TO PROMOTE ANOTHER. I’d probably take you more seriously if you recomended the Runaways without the ridiculous rant and hate on Rpatz.
I knew Rob could act when I saw him in How To Be, Little Ashes and yes Remember Me. He’s is great in Remember Me. A lot of people including some critics who don’t like the movie or its ending says He CAN ACT. Now you have the right not to like his acting, but coming on here like you’re an expert on acting and knows he’s not this or that is total BS.
Excellent news! I absolutely loved the film and I can’t for the life of me understand what those critics saw (or didn’t see) that was so bad. I can’t wait to see Rob in his coming (non-Twi) movies, Bel Ami and Water for Elephants.
Loved this movie,and can’t wait for the DVD. Over 50 million for the little movie with the 16 million dollar budget. Beautiful, bittersweet film! All the cast did such a great job! Hope it gets more recognition in time.
I am so pleased to see it is doing well, the little movie that could.
I thought it was brilliantly acted and an excellent story, one of the best movies in ages, and have pre-ordered the DVD.
Glad to hear this movie has legs. I loved this movie and will be buying the dvd. The cast was great. Really enjoyed Rob, Pierce and the little girl. Yes, the critics are out of touch. They shouldn’t be in such a business if they can’t be objective. They were like a bunch of pre-schoolers who hated on Rob b/c of TW. Really a pathetic lot if you ask me.
This post will be ruled as irrelevant by tomorrow when actuals come out. Remember Me will probably have actual figures down at least twenty four percent. It isn’t very smart to post things like this before the actuals come out. She’s out of my League will play well enough in overseas market. It already made for two million on top of the thirty that it made domestically. It wasn’t a huge hit, but for a movie that had to go against 3D with no big name stars, it’s doing all right. Robert Pattinson is not a Hollywood star and probably will never be one. He is like the Mark Hamill of the new millennium. Okay, but nothing special. Once the looks go then so will the career
Yay and all those critics can suck on it. Every blogs and movie site I’ve seen the Viewers give the film A or A-. While the critics gave it C or D. If you ask me when you are that out of touch with the PAYING MOVIE GOING PUBLIC, YOU ARE USELESS. Bunch of self-important parasites.
Remember Me opened in over 2100 theaters across the U.S. and is produced by Summit, the formerly indie, now big league Twilight studio. The Runaways at its widest release didn’t even play on 300 theaters, hasn’t played internationally, is a small arthouse film by a new studio, Apparition, and is rated R. Why would any sane person compare these two films?
Remember Me did well because it played to the fangirls overseas who love Robert Pattinson. I honestly thought the domestic figure would be higher, at least around $40 million but the Twilight teenyboppers stayed away because of the subject matter or bad reviews.
Remember Me will do brisk sales at the local Wal-Marts and Target, and be seen as okay by some people. The Runaways will do good at film critics awards and be seen by a wider audience on DVD.
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse will make hundreds of millions of dollars, get awful reviews, and go on to sell a bunch of DVD’s.
Now I hope that ends the fighting. Alt Film Guide does not hate Kristen Stewart and I doubt they are paid by Pattinson’s PR team.
I’m so very happy for the news about the movie “Remember Me.” The movie was really excellent. Robert Pattinson did a brilliant acting in the movie. He proves that he can come out in twilight. I don’t believe to the critics nonetheless i saw the film. The critics are very wrong with their reviews about he movie. Film critics of this movie should switch to another career. I think they have problem with their eyesight
Both Stewart and Pattinson did very well in their respective movies, but Pattinson had the advantage of a wider distribution while The Runaways has been very difficult to see because
of it’s limited theater release. I plan on seeing it as soon as I find a theater in my
area where it’s playing.
Summit was really mean when they chose not to pick-up Kristen’s movie they have been great
to Pattinson though. I haven’t been able to see
it because it’s not in any cinema in my area I know that if it would’ve had a greater distribution it would’ve done much better. You suck Summit!!!
Thank you for an updates on Remember Me BO.
It’s doing great considering the subject of the movie and unfavorable reviews from critics who missed to grasp main idea of the movie.
I saw the movie twice with different groups of friends and we all loved it. I am waiting for DVD release to add it to my collection.
Using the Twilighters names to get hits again, Alt. Who cares? Both those movies have been out for over a month. You should have led with the new releases. I guess Robert Pattinson’s PR team is paying you too much to actually be objectionable.
Daniel, you might want to look up the dictionary. “Objectionable” means causing disapproval or protest. I think you meant to say that Michelle was being subjective. Well… It’s about the eyes of the beholder, isn’t it?
Michelle, that’s what I mean about the “adoration” a couple weeks ago. :)
“The Runaways” is not my cup of tea. I’m looking forward to seeing “The Yellow Hankerchief”, actually.
On the other hand, I think “Remember Me” has proved that Robert Pattinson has the interntional appeals. I’m looking at the numbers for “She’s Out of My League”, and I have no idea how that movie is going to sell in the oversea market. Therefore, between those 2 movies “Remember Me” might actually become a more profitable in the box office. How ironic is that?
@Daniel I think this film site has been fair in their reporting of films. It’s not their fault you have a hatred of RPatz for his success. They didn’t put a gun to your head and force you to click on it so quit your whining.
I love Remember Me and Summit is on my sh!t list for their screwing with the script to change it to PG-13 & the horendous marketing of that film. Frankly I’m surprized the film made any money. Every body I’ve told to see RM loved it and said they thought it was just a chick flick based on the marketing. They also were surprized how multi-layered and moving the film is. They also thought the cast was great. I’m glad it’s doing well overseas.
Oh & I love this site.
@pc: Summit does a lot of things badly but given how challenged R-rated films have done of late at the box office, you should be thanking them that they changed Remember Me to a PG-13 film. Without that PG-13 rating, RM’s box office take would probably be shaved about 30% down at least. Summit also aggressively marketed it and made sure it had a wide release which guaranteed that it would make back its production cost. So give Summit some credit for Remember Me.
As for The Runaways’s numbers being ‘fresher’, I don’t know about that. TR, at its highest, was 244 theaters. When it expanded, it went to 204 and then to 243 then down to 170 and there’s been nearly zero marketing. If people might want to see the film again, they find its gone. Not exactly optimal for repeat viewership. So TR has faced a challenging release. It should also be noted that TR hasn’t even played in all 50 states. My state has yet to see it.
Iam so glad to see all the raves about Remember Me. To see such a fabulous movie bashed by critics is so WRONG!!It was only shown in my area two weeks. People were raving about how good it was. I so agree with pc and mh. So nice to know that other people see though the reasons for this movie not being presented in the reviews like it deserved. TOP TEN MOVIE!!!
Yay, go Remember Me! I’m so happy for it. It’s definitely got a good word of mouth/buzz here over in France. It was bashed by the critics - but the viewers love it and recommend it on all the blogs and threadq and it’s done rather well at the BO for a film in its category (about $2,800,000 in 2 weeks so far). It also attracts a larger male audience than I would have thought.
Loved the film. Watched it thrice and enjoyed each time more than the last.Robert and the excellent cast did VERY well and the early ‘bad’ reviews were really unwarranted.
This movie has legs..definitely.
Now I can’t wait to get the DVD/OST/score!
Couldn’t happen to a more deserving actor than Robert Pattinson. Loved the movie. Saw it twice and think the critics gave it a really bad rap. Good script, well enacted, and left plenty to ponder after it ended.
Hardlu a flop. Proves that with the right vehicle Pattinson can make money at the box office. I personally loved this litte film
Thought all the actors involved were terrific. I
that would be hardly. Sorry for the typo
Robert Pattinson, Pierce Brosnan, Chris Cooper, they’re actors who take a part because they believe in the script, in the movie. They wouldn’t be part of a movie that has manipulative or exploitative motives. How is it possible that none of the reviewers considered this while judging the film? It doesn’t take that high intellectual level to understand their motives to believe in this story, so why couldn’t all these respectable reviewers try to get it? And what really makes me mad and sad is that magazines as EW and gossip sites as Eonline try to make hits of Robert by writing about him as much as they can. They know Rob, they know that he’s shy, humble and honest but they’r not ashamed to bash him and his film in an offending way. I call this hypocritical. When an actor isn’t good in your opinion you don’t try to make money of him. When you think he’s worth to be on your cover regularly that’s because you find him interesting or good in his job.
Whatever, I’m glad that Remember me gets better reviews in some European countries and that it’s quite succesful in Europe.
I’m quite sure that if there might be a poll at the end of the year about the most misunderstood and underrated movie, Remember me would win hands down.
I love this movie. It’s full of heart and soul. Chris Cooper is right. It is a love letter to New York. I can’t wait to add DVD to my collection.
I couldn’t believe you used Tom Cruise as a comparison. Go back and watch All The Right Moves and Risky Business and then tell me you couldn’t tell that guy could act. Robert has never shown that. In fact can you see him in any of the Lethal Weapon’s, Die Hard’s or Mission Impossible’s? It cracks me up even trying to picture it.
I noticed you didn’t make a comparison to Kristen so I have to surmise you know she’s on her way out. Studio’s can’t keep investing in movies that don’t make it. The Yellow Hankerchief lost over 15 million then Adventureland lost at least 6 million looks like The Runaway’s will lose around 10 million. That’s 31 million enough to make producers and backers lean a different way.
The movie was awful and Kristen was the same as always. If the camera wasn’t on her but filming Dakota and Kristen was visible but not the center of attention she looked dead. It made me think of a wind up doll, like the only way for her to be animated is to be wound up.
The movie has to make $19 million for the studio to break even that’s no profit. That does not include paying Apparition or money spent on promoting the film which would be another 5 miilion (keeping the 55% rule in mind would me they need to make an another 9 mil on top of the 19 mil or 28 million to break even. I will be shocked if it does. Summit has the distribution rights for overseas not Apparition, so be upset with Summit on why the overseas market hasn’t been started.
Kristen was very good, I have seen it and love it.
I think it just proves that on the Internet and all ticket sales to Twi movies are the same people over and over. It gives an apparency that these kids are more popular than they are. I know I can’t wait til the last Twi movie is over and we can so long to both of them.
I don’t care if critics decide they are in love with both of them. The fans of both Robert and Kristen and the Twi zombies have ruined these two. I know where I work we have 350 employees and these two are the jokes of the day everyday. The task gets passed around to someone different everyday to come up with something on Robert and Kristen and send out an e-mail. Before all this started a survey was done on whether Robert was liked, Kristen etc. If you didn’t like them what was the reason. Out of 350 people only 25 liked them the rest all answered that Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart can’t act but mainly they disliked them because the fans are so obnoxious!
I wish they’d play The Runaways in more theaters…we had to drive 160 miles roundtrip to see it in Tulsa, Oklahoma. It surely would have made much more money if they’d only have put it out there.
If Apparition had of taken this movie wide, it would have been in the top ten for a number of weeks. The per screen average puts it there. It will be a hit overseas and on DVD. They only spent $10 million to make it and very little to market the actual film. I’ve heard that they’ve already made the budget back on selling it to foreign markets. The DVD should be huge too because the people that couldn’t see it because of the rating will be able to watch at home. It will also sell well with the Itunes movie buying crowd. Adventureland was the same way. It didn’t do much in theaters, but is now a cult classic on DVD. Almost every person i know has it. I’m just happy that Kristen Stewart, Dakota Fanning, and Michael Shannon) are going to get a lot more work because of the movie. Floria also did a wonderful job considering that this is her first film. I’m stoked that it’s holding up and I know Apparition is glad that they’ve made their investment back and are in the black. My UK relatives are waiting to see the movie.
If apparition had taken this film to a wide release, the film would be an even grander flop than it was! The limited release showed people weren’t interested in it. It’s a mediocre film anyway; As for Fanning&Stewart, enthousiastic reviews?? Srsly?? The critics that liked Dakota didn’t like Stewart&the other way around! Their approach to their characters were the exact opposite, so some critics liked one&some liked the other; the only rave reviews I read, were from Twi-fans…who didn’t even watch the film as it seems…
He doesn’t have any male fans in America. I thought this movie would have made at least sixty million here, but the Twilight tweens didn’t go see it. I don’t know why. It had an attractive cast, PG-13 rating, and it played wide. I guess they were offended by the ending or they don’t want to see him play a human person. I don’t see his next film doing great in America either. Maybe he should stick to being an international star. A lot of Americans don’t know the Bollywood actors, but they are famous in the rest of the world. Rob’s future will be better if he sticks to films with international appeal. The American audience will never forget Edward Cullen so he’s never going to be a big star here.
I think Remember Me is doing quite well considering the competition it was up against. It was a wonderful film, with solid performances from a wonderful cast. With only a 16 million dollar budget, Remember Me want be in the red. Summit will definately see a profit. I’m glad that I got to see it on the big screen, instead of waiting for the DVD. I’ve already pre-ordered my copy.
it is a shame that the film has not recieved the recognition it deserves. It is actually a very good films and the characters are convincing. I bet the DVD release will be very high in sales as it is not really a cinema film….certain films are better on the big screen so you pay the money to get the impact so in comparison with that point i can understand the box office non hit approach. The same applied with ‘me and orson wells’…a good film, an excellant cast yet faded into obscurity. Remember me will be remembered there is no denying robert pattinson’s appeal.
rememmber me earned 46 million so far, an it was invested 16 million.
I think it is very good. I amfrom Europe, and I enjoyed Remember me a lot.
Unfortunately, US audiences are jaded. It doesn’t surprise me that it is doing better overseas. I think they rushed Rob into this piece. Despite good acting on the part of the actors, I think the ending sequence put many in the US off…just an observation…
I love Remember me, Robert did awesome job
Asked my sister to go see it since she was directly affected by 9/11. Told her not to read spoilers. She loved it. Those critics are irrelevant.
I love Remember Me so much and am sending or taking all my friends to see it. Yesterday I wnet with a friend - a 46 year old guy who had never heard of Rob or of Twilight and had no idea at all what RM was about - and he “abso-freaking-lutely” loved the film (except the ending which he disliked intensely), and we talked and talked about it for hours. He was blown away by Rob’s performance and as a man was particularly moved by the depiction of the son/father relationship. In my country RM is doing well and is #5 at the box office sofar, with blockbuster competition like Titans, AIW and Dragons. Not bad for a little film!
Saw Remember me twice and thought it was even better after the second viewing. Plan to go again. Obsessed by Robert Pattinson and enjoy every thing he is in. 69 years old and just enjoy a good romance. After 50 years of marriage still see my husband as 17 when I met him and just as exciting as Robert. Love them…
Yay!!! Seems like the public are reading the reader reviews rather than the critic’s reviews. Remember Me is a wonderful movie and deserves to do well.
I agree with Belle and think the word-of-mouth has been really good. I’ve seen Remember Me twice and enjoyed the second viewing even more than the first. It will appeal to both sexes and trust me, you’ll enjoy it and be left with a lot to think about after you leave the theatre. It has a good script and excellent actors. Remember Me is a surprisingly very good movie.
Yes, it is. Remember me is a great story, I love it.
I absolutely loved RM!! I thought Rob definitely proved himself as an actor. I am so happy RM is in the “black” and making money. Hopefully DVD sales will be strong. So happy for Rob. The movie is wonderful a must see.
wow..remmber me rocks the world!!! gor rob!!!!!
Loved the movie. It’s very touching real human story. They need to make more movies like this one. They should have released it sooner in Europe though. It’s possible that this delay has affected foreign BO because usually pirate versions show up on line after a couple of weeks since opening day. Still the movie is doing pretty good in spite of everything. Apparently good WOM is working.
It’s doing really well, despite the negative reviews. It’s got a good WOM which I guess is helping it. Here in my country (France) it started really well, last Wednesday which is the day of new releases it was #2 of the new releases, and it had to compete with Clash of the Titans. I’ve been to see it several times and the theater was always packed, and the reaction of the audience is generally very positive. The ending however still divides and stuns everyone, but it is at least perceived with more detachment and distance as in the US - it is not taboo here.
lOVED rEMEMBER mE. iTS A WONDERFUL FILM AND i LOOK FORWARD TO PURCHASING IT WHEN IT COMES TO DVD.
. . . what a waste to open it this late to some of those countries, but this time, they probably had a “cam” of the movie circulating alredy.
They should have opened it within a week of two of U.S. showing.
I really loved the movie, Remember Me, and thought that Pattinson proved himself to be a good actor. I think this movie is doing quite well.
Hi Michelle, I’ve been following the comments since the beginning… I have a hunch that this isn’t anymore about the box-office numbers of Remember Me. And that it’s much more about feelings of love or hate for this film (which I loved) and his lead… it’s rather amazing how this little film seems to generate tons of comments in its wake. Whether they love it or hate it, people talk about it, on all the threads I’ve seen. Good for it. I think it’s better than if no one talked at all about it. I think you are right though, a lot of it is due to Rob Pattionson’a presence in the fim. I doubt RM would have stirred so much reaction if the lead actor had been someone less known. A discussion about BO numbers should be rather objective, it’s all about numbers after all, but RM turns it into a heated debate which extends far beyond numbers. This is very strange… Thanks for your excellent blog anyway!
Are you trying to be sarcastic? If you are, then stop acting snobby and stop trying to convey sarcasm through the internet, it just confuses the masses. If not, then you must be a very interesting person to talk to.
A studio only makes 55% of the gross. So, the movie has to make 45 million to break even no profit just even! Box Office Mojo explains it well!
It still has to make enough to cover its promotion budget, which means it needs to maje 45 mil. Before you say it will make that in DVD’s you have to consider the cost of makibg the DVD’s and promoting it. It looks like you need to do your homework before attacking someone who is only reporting the truth.
>>>>>>>>>>>It still has to make enough to cover its promotion budget, which means it needs to maje 45 mil.
Do you know how much the marketing/distribution budget was? How did you come up with the $45 million figure?
Actually, it could be that you’re right. In fact, I wouldn’t doubt it. But **no one** here has said that “Remember Me” is already in the black. Though I do predict it’ll get there, after foreign/ancillary revenues are tallied.
That’s how it works with the vast majority of Hollywood productions. If studios relied only on the box office take of their films in North America, Hollywood would have gone bankrupt a long, long time ago.
As of last weekend, “Remember Me” had earned $35 million worldwide, with more major markets to come. It’ll possibly surpass $45 million worldwide (though, of course, there are marketing/distribution costs to be added for the international market — I don’t know how Summit’s contracts were drawn up for each international territory in terms of cost/revenue splitting; usually, studios — at least the major ones — keep about 40% of international grosses).
And then there are DVDs and other ancillary sources of income (cable, network TV, pay-per-view, etc) worldwide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Before you say it will make that in DVD’s you have to consider the cost of makibg the DVD’s and promoting it.
Do you actually believe studios spend nearly as much promoting and making DVDs (or cable/pay-per-view/network showings) as they do producing and promoting a movie?
>>>>>It looks like you need to do your homework before attacking someone who is only reporting the truth.
Have you looked at the other movies being made and how much they’ve grossed at the North American box office? Have you taken a good look at how much they cost?
The vast majority of them don’t recover their production/marketing costs at US/Canada movie theaters.
“Remember Me” is no exception.
But a true flop, a movie that’ll likely never be able to recover its costs (production or marketing or both), is something like “Green Zone” or “Nine” or “Repo Men.” Not “Remember Me.”
I really love Remember me movie. I know is good and Robert knows it. Otherwise he would not do it so I am happy.
Numbers are just numbers, I would be dissapointed if movie was bad and Boxx office was big.
Oh I also wanted to say that I feel Remember Me honor the 3000+ victims of 9/11 more than any film I’ve seen. Those people like my sister walked out their homes & said goodbye to their families thinking it was going to be just another day. Each was a Tyler with hopes and dreams that were cut short. Lucky for us my sister was rescued, but we should ALWAYS REMEMBER the others.
I don’t think there would have been all this glee for this film to fail if Rob was not in it. People hate him b/c of hi fame from Twilight and they’re petty. What else is new? I mean the critics couldn’t wait to sink their teeth into him. First they said the ending comes out of nowhere? Lol Not if you were paying attention. My little sister put 2&2 together and you’re so called professional critics couldn’t.? Secondly the ending was all over the net long before the film opened. If they’d do some research they would have known. Oh and I love the hypocritical outrage at the “ending.” OMG! As if Hollywood has NEVER used a tragedy in movies before. They’re so phony and transparent it’s laughable.
How many war movies has Hollywood made for entertainment?. So weren’t those exploitative? The Oscars and Baftas were heaping praise on The Hurt Locker. Was that film an exploitation of U.S soldiers, the 1.2 million dead iraquis and the 4.5 iraqui refugees. If you remember Bush USED 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq who had NOTHING to do with 9/11. Exploitation anyone?Those critics are full of CRAP. They will never have any credibility in my eyes.
It would have been more credible if they just say they hate the film for whatever. The whole hoopla about the ending being “cheap” “exploitative” “a twist” “manipulative” is just PURE BS. My older sister almost died at worldtrade trust me I would have told you If I felt manipulated.
I love your Rob posts!! Don’t tone them down! I repsect him too. He is so unhollywood and down to earth and choosey about his post twilight rolls. I think he is definitely worthy of respect!
I loved RM - thought Rob was great in it too. i agree with your thoughts about it pretty much qualifying for indie status too.
I hope Rob has a great career ahead of him.
Remember Me is a Top Ten movie. Why all the bashing by the so called experts??? The story,the acting,the cast was incredible. People that have actually seen the movie are raving about it. I went to Remember Me without knowing who Robert Pattinson was.His talent is over the top…way over the top. The numbers aren’t in on the box office yet. By the looks of things its far from a failure.
Love your thoughts about Indie Movies. On my opinion, If Rob is in it, I will, definetely watch. Period LOL :))
Personally, I would consider movies like “The Hurt Locker”, “The Ghost Writer” and “A Single Man” indies because they were made without the backing of a studio. “Remember Me” doesn’t give me an indie feeling in terms of how this movie got the money to be made. But the theme? Yes, it’s an indie movie theme.
And the strange thing is that some people get upset/angry about the defination of an indie. For me, Michelle, I think some people just get offended because we keep saying that “Remember Me” is a good movie, and that despite the disappointment this movie would eventually make a profit.
By the way, perhaps it’s time to tone down the adoration from this blog towards Rob Pattinson. That might help the cause. :)
This used to be my favorite blog but lately the articles have been weak. Some of the posters need to look up ‘indie’. Me and my best friend make true indies and it’s hard getting them released. To be truly indie you need a budge of less than ten mil, not to ever open on more than 500 screens, and have less than three mil in marketing. From what i understand (honestly don’t really care) this movie had none of that. I just wanted to define what indie means.
>>>>>>>>Some of the posters need to look up ‘indie’. … To be truly indie you need a budge of less than ten mil, not to ever open on more than 500 screens, and have less than three mil in marketing. From what i understand (honestly don’t really care) this movie had none of that. I just wanted to define what indie means.
“Indie” definitions vary widely.
Remember Me would be eligible for both the indie-oriented Gotham Awards and the Independent Spirit Awards. Check out their rules/requirements.
It flopped and flopped and flopped. Bad writing, bad acting, bad screenplay. Now sparkle boy can go back to Harry Pottie. Oh wait… At least America has Sam Worthington, the best import of the New Millennium.
Thanks you so much mh for the comments. It puts everything back in a clear, rational perspective. BO numbers do not lie, but it’s so annoying to see how some people have a knack of twisting them to have their way when they’ve decided to bash something. There are no “probable” numbers, there’s facts which have to be checked. Some commenters tend to forget that yes, others too can add up, and that yes, others also know much better than them how the biz works. Thanks for our great post anyway! :))
I am amazed that Remember me has done better over seas than in USA/Canada. It does reflect taste in movies. I guess a serious thought provoking movie reflecting USA’s tragic 9/11 and a beautiful love story done tastefully, does not appeal to Americans on the whole. It shows how shallow most people’s taste is here……probably wanting more sex, violence, and powerful cinematic effects, and now 3D.
Thanks mh for the numbers and arguments. They sound good.
Clearly the author doesn’t know how the biz works. The movie cost $16 million to produce. At least $14 million was spent on marketing, probably more. We’re at at least $28 million for those of you that can’t add. Summit Entertainment probably sold international rights for between $8 million. That means that they have made around $26 million. They still need at least $4 million to be okay. The movie was a disappointment. It undoubtedly flopped despite being in almost every theater and having a supposedly big name star. An $8 million dollar domestic opening for a story set in New York is not good at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Clearly the author doesn’t know how the biz works.
Do you? If the honchos at Sony, Universal, Paramount, or Disney or [fill in the blank with the name of your favorite studio] said they did, they’d be lying.
Else, a marketing-savvy guy like Harvey Weinstein wouldn’t have gambled on a dismal flop — and that *was* a dismal flop — such as “Nine.” Universal wouldn’t have touched “Green Zone” or “Repo Men.” Disney wouldn’t have suffered a steep financial downturn even before the economic crisis began.
>>>>>>At least $14 million was spent on marketing, probably more.
I haven’t seen those figures. Have you?
>>>>>>Summit Entertainment probably sold international rights for between $8 million.
When international rights are sold, studios/producers can still get a percentage of the grosses.
And where did you find that $8 million figure?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>That means that they have made around $26 million. They still need at least $4 million to be okay.
Have you heard of something called “ancillary markets”? That’s where most movies earn back their costs.
Most movies don’t recover their cost at the US/Canada box office. Even “Avatar” would have been a disappointment if it truly cost $220–$250 million plus another $100-$125 million on advertising and distribution fees.
James Cameron’s movie would need about $650–$750 million in the US to break even. (As a rule of thumb, exhibitors keep about 50% of the box office grosses.)
Also as a rule of thumb, North American box office usually accounts for about 25% of a movie’s revenues for the studios. That’s why movies still get made. Studios rely on foreign markets and ancillary markets, both domestic and foreign, for their profits.
>>>>>>The movie was a disappointment. It undoubtedly flopped despite being in almost every theater and having a supposedly big name star. An $8 million dollar domestic opening for a story set in New York is not good at all.
“Disappointment,” yes. “Undoubtedly flopped,” definitely not. “Green Zone” flopped. “Repo Men” flopped.
And I’m not sure where or how you came up with the idea that a movie set in New York City has to open BIG. Especially one that has a terrorist attack as its dramatic climax.
“Remember Me” is an indie — and a daring one at that — distributed as if it were a major studio flick because of the “Twilight” movies. The studio expected between $8–$10 million on opening weekend. The “twist” ending had been revealed long before the movie opened. The hero dies. Reviews were mixed-to-negative.
“Remember Me” survived some pretty tough odds. Most other movies would have sunk without a trace.
It could rake in 60Mill and some would say it bombed!!! It was an Indie Movie with 16Mill Production Cost..get real ..It did very good.
One of the commenters here should first check the numbers and learn how BO really works before saying something is a “dismal failure”. Check Green Zone: 100 $M budget, total domestic gross 33 $M; Repo Men: budget 32 $M, domestic gross 13$M and already down 82%… now those are dismal failures. Please do your research before you bash something. RM was originally slated by Summit for a worldwide final gross of 25-30 $M. So it’s doing quite well. The foreign numbers haven’t all rolled in yet and some which have are only updated till 03/28. Plus RM has not opened yet in several countries. It is clear that it will not blow the BO away but then it was never meant to be.
All the R-Patz haters can’t wait to exclaim his demise. They’re salivating cause Remember Me didn’t break the US box office. Really! Were you really expecting this film to to make Twilight Money? SERIOUSLY. On opening weekend the experts only projected it to make 10 mil and it made 8mil. No matter how much you try to make RM sound like a 200 million dollar budget Blockbuster that fail, IT’S STILL A 16 MIL DARK INDIE DRAMA. NOT A TYPICAL AMERICAN FEEL GOOD MOVIE. This film requires its audience to think. Somthing Americans are NOT too big on.
it’s a dismal failure when one considers a decent average film opens with $21 million….of course a movie will pick up sales if you flood it in every country …but $35 million after a worldwide bo intake is laughable.
It is a pity! What Apparition did with The Runaways was the same that put fire in a pile of money. Incredible!
If Apparition didn’t have change the rules a week before the premiere in March 19, the outcome box office would probably would be different.
The buzz, the critics and the mouth to mouth were all lost because a lazy marketing strategy.
If it had gone wide worldwide in March 19, none of the negative buzz would happen. This is like fire… If one site say it is bad business, in hours, sites all over the world will talk about it, growing the negative buzz without even worried if the source is security.
The first weekend had $3,300 average per theater. Not awesome but not bad for a indie movie in limited release, with a lousy marketing campaign.
The second weekend had $1,927 and the third had $2,129.
I can’t get it!
It had a $10 Million budget! It is not a movie with more than $100 Million budget as some studio’s releases that are not making this kind of average in the weekends, won’t pay the cost and the theater’s owners are maintaining it screening and are full of fear of the Runaways. I really can’t understand this!
I am 49, so I am the target audience!
Sorry for my English but it is not my first language. Have some patience! :-)
I have some thoughts about it and would like to expose it here, for you understand why I am saying that the marketing campaign was lousy….
1- The film is rate R, so most of the audience DO NOT HAVE A TWITTER, do not surf on Internet all day tracking movies reviews and do not have Kristen Stewart and Dakota Fanning as reference for a good movie.
2- Dakota is well known between audience above 20 years old but most of us do not have her as a reference because in our mind she is still a little girl, so… as a child actor, she would only be in a lead actor if the movie was for children audience, if not, she would be a support actor. She is starting a new step of her acting career and the 20/30/40 or older audience still has to have time to assimilate her as a reference.
Most of Kristen Stewart’s films were indie and most of the target audience don’t have access to indie films. That is the reason why almost no one over 30 don’t remember her before Into the wild and Twilight. She is not a teen star from TV, where millions of people has access and Twilight is not a good reference for the target audience. For most of the rate R audience she is not yet a reference.
Both actress are gifted, are monsters of their generation and probably will be huge in a near future, but today they still are not a reference for the RATE R AUDIENCE.
3- They could use the come of age acting of the two actress plus the example of the The Runaways girls to incentive the mothers to go and see it with their teenage daughters to given them a lesson of how things can be good or how things can be bad if you get lost, use drugs without guidance. Cherry and Joan are good examples of life as also the two actress. But they left the media do a negative buzz about the use of drugs and sex outfits.
4- The film has music, rock and roll music, why do not involve TV channel as MTV in the project? My GOD! There is a large audience that would go to see it just because Joan Jett.
5- Apparition home page and also The Runaways homepage don’t have a forum or a place where they could interact with the fans to understand better the target audience.
6- There was not any The Runaways banners, that I have had knowledge, on sites as NY Times or any site from newspapers or magazines, sites of entertainment or sites like yours. Because, these are the sites where some of the target audience surf. I saw banners from Greenberg and another indie movies in sites like that, but not from The Runaways.
7- All the talking shows were before march 19! Most of the newspaper reviews were before march 19. Since March 18, Apparition vanish from the face of the Earth, without a word.
Beside its all, The runaways had all the media put an amount of pressure in it because of Kristen Stewart name and you can see it last weekend box offices reviews and this ridiculous and totally unfair!
No film without a establish actor or an Oscar buzz can pull an audience without a smart marketing campaign and lets be honest, Kristen Stewart still is a gifted kid unknown for majority of the rate R audience.
Contrary the other kids from Twilight that most of fan base has the ages between 11 and 17 years, I am almost certain that more than 60% of the Kristen Stewart’s fan base has ages over 17. She has a good number of fans since Speak and a huge fan base of movies goers like me that didn’t remember her from Panic Room but that were magnetized for her acting skills in Twilight.
I didn’t see Twilight and didn’t want to see New Moon but I become curious because all the buzz. When New Moon was release I went to see it. She hold me in the seat all the time. I felt that something was wrong.. or the poor dialogs or the cutting edition but she was in almost all the scenes, doing a insightful performance elevating clearly the level of her co-workers performances. I went to her IMDB page, saw that she was the amazing girl from Panic Room and Into the Wild and she had worked with several directors and actors that are reference of quality for me as for example, Mary Stuart Masterson. I bought DVDs of all her films and discovered amazing films as Speak and The Cake Eaters. I discovered a new amazing actress. Like me, most of her fans did the same. She became a reference for new films. She, Dakota Fanning, Abigail Breslin and Saiorse Ronan are some of the gifted promises, under 20, in my opinion.
Apparition was really lazy to thought that everything can be resolve thru the Internet media and blogs. They really didn’t get who was the target audience.
Although the Brazilian distributor is another company, I don’t think it will be release in September as it was programmed if the situation don’t get better…. :(
I hope they learn the lesson and don’t do the same with Welcome to the Rileys!
They are insane! They put fire in a pile of money!
Sorry for the long post…. I hope that I have had sucess in the explanation of my point of view. :-)
I love this movie, it’s real shame that summit screwed up, having those god damn awful critic reviews putting the knife in,and having to go head to gead with blockbusters, it really didn’t have much of a chance,so many will be kicking them selfs not seeing it, i’ll definitly will be getting my own copy
Thank you very much for this good news. The gross of Remember Me almost doubles the movie’s cost. I am sure Remember Me’s number will be in black no mater now much they spent in marketing. I didn’t see much marking here in Canada. The movie theatre I went to watch this movie is the bigest one in my city and they didn’t even put out the post of Remember Me.
Apparently, people oversea have better taste that people in US/Canada. When can you get the number from Britain?
Finally saw a pre-screening of Remember me here in Europe yesterday. I love movies about ordinary people and their ordinary lives but they’ve become so rare these days. Remember me is such a movie and it stole my heart. My 16-year old daughter was very touched by the story and she keeps thinking about it, which is good. We talked a lot about the themes of the film and she told me she understands now better the impact of the events and the emotions about it then when se saw films about it in school. So when a movie helps young people to realise important things in life and provokes interesting conversations between parents and children,how can this be a bad movie? Maybe the critics could have warned their audience for the ending but bashing this film was a big mistake. I’m glad I never listen to them because most of them have very big egos. Oh and, btw, the acting was really good in my opinion. Robert Pattinson is an extremely talented actor, I’m curious for his further projects. Sorry, English isn’t my native language.
That’s good news. Loved the movie - but completely mystified but Summit’s marketing. I am so buying the DVD when it’s released on June 22 (in the US, don’t know about other places).
I feel sure Remember Me will do well in Europe as it has a bit of a European look to the film - more realistic and less “prettified” than most American movies. I also think it will do well on DVD - I will certainly be adding it to my collection. I thought it is a great movie and I was very impressed with all the key cast members as they all inhabited their characters. I found myself thinking about it days after having viewed it and actually went back for a second look where I found I got even more out of it.
It’s a beautiful, profound little film and I hope it will do very well at the end of its career. Reviews and a bad marketing almost killed it but it finally survived and it’s got a very, very good word of mouth. I think the rest of the world will welcome it better than the USA. I can only say one thing : go and see it!
Remember Me was an ok movie. Remember Me just doesn’t appeal to people.
remember me is amazing !!!!!!!!!!! you should go and watch it
I didn’t realize how much Summit Screwed the marketing of RM until I went to see it. If you want an example of Crappy marketing, this is it. Although I have to wonder if they did it on purpose. Rob after all is one half of their profitable Twilight Franchise couple. Don’t want to mess with that Right Summit.
Does anybody know if the budget amount include marketing? It would be sad if they paid a lot of money for the marketing of this film. They should all be fired.
I agree that marketing did suck! And the budget does not include marketing, it’s what I heard. I’m quite sure the movie is going to do well in the UK, though! Keep your fingers crossed. If the movie turns up a profit, we will see more Rob movies than if it ends up in the red…for sure!
Rob and cast superb in this film. Agree that the marketing for this film is deplorable.Posters a day late in one cinema and one poster present on the day itself in another.Every other film well promoted.No Eclipse trailer on the late showing.I recommended one older lady with her teenage son go see the film in the queue as they couldnt get in to a blockbuster.They thanked me afterwards as they thought RM was a RomCom and would not normally have given it a look but they enjoyed it so much they will recommend the film to their friends.
I agree with the previous comment, Summit relly did screw up the marketing with this movie. What with all the leaks of the script all over the internet and then the Eclipse trailer being put out the day before the movie opened, it was one disaster after another - you are right they should all be fired. Despite all this and the relentless and unfounded negativity from the critics, Remember Me has done really well - because it is a great movie and Rob is fantastic in it. Box Office Mojo reports over 70% viewers rated it a grade A, pretty darn good I would say.
I agree with you marketing suck for this movie.
I am from Europe and I have seen movie, I am so happy Robert did this movie and everbody thought by the trailer ”It’s another stupid amrican teen movie” including me. I admit I was wrong, I love Remeber me!
i agree about summit and their marketing strategy…(but summit seem not to know their demographic even for the twilight movies- its not little girls, or teenage boys. its grown women in love with the romance….which is why new moon was not as good as twilight…but i digress!)
‘remember me’ doesn’t fit into an obvious category or a particular genre- but it is a highly competent piece of movie making and as someone else commented, will sit well on my dvd rack for many years to come.
I can’t comment on the level of marketing given to Remember Me in the USA, not being a citizen but I can say that it was not given much marketing in Australia. I am a regular at the movies and did not see it preview in the weeks leading up to its release, nor was there much print media coverage. I think it would have done better had it had a better marketing campaign. Everyone I spoke to about Remember Me came away impressed and a little surprised at its depth. I found myself thinking about it long after I had seen it and it will definitely be added to my DVD collection. I think it will do very well in the DVD market.
Thanks for all the detailed box offic reports for Remember Me. I love this movie and hope it is successful in business. I check your page almost every day. Your page is the only place I can get the figures and analysis. You are a devoted Rob Pattinson fan. He is very talented but it is challenging for him to have this huge fame at such young age. I hope he has more success in order to convince people that he desirves his fame. Please keep up the good work.
I am eager to learn the box office report from Britain. I hope his homeland supports him strongely.
Great movie. I hope RM does very well in the international market for Rob. I hope it ends well into the black. Loved the movie and Rob.
In all fairness, Remember Me was getting unfair bad press because of the ending which caused spoilers all over the internet and made people not want to go to see the film. I saw it and felt that the ending fit perfectly with the movie and it was tastefully done and the critics were too harsh. It is really too bad becasue this was a beautiful movie and I would have like to see it do better than it did at the box office.
As for Kristen Stewarts movie, I can’t say that much except that she did look like Joan Jett but in the clips I saw, she just seemed like the same Kristen Stewart, the one who is not a very good actress and that might be why she didn’t draw in very many people. Her fanbase is NOT just a tween group of girls. I know it might seem like it but some of those crazy obsessed fans are actually grown women that identify with her in some way or live vicariously though her. I am not one of those women but I do see a lot of this fandom online so to say that the movie was a flop do to drugs, lesbian kiss etc. is a cop out. We will see how it does when it goes for the wide release and maybe she can pull it out of the bag, I mean the movie WAS only released in a few theaters so we will see how much her fans are willing to come out and support her or how much of her support is just based on her rumored affair with young Mr. Pattinson.
la he visto 2 veces, me parece una pelicula hermosa, con sentido y un hermoso mensaje..gran actuacion de Robert y todo el elenco..Hoy 31 de Marzo es el estreno en España y se que le va a ir bien en taquilla
The movie was thought provoking and bitter sweet.
The acting was excellent I thought, from the entire cast. I would watch Rob hanging out the laundry, but that is not why I liked the movie. It was a good story, bittersweet as I said and thought provoking. I will also purchase the DVD when it comes out.
Go see the movie, you will be glad you did.
Does anyone know whose picture is on the door of Tyler’s apartment in Remember Me. It’s a print of a man with a long beard. The same photo/painting is show at the end when Pierce Brosnan and the little girl are at the Metropolitan Museum. Anyone?????
Yes, I did notice the same painting of a man with a beard was on his wall and at the end in the museum. Not sure what that meant or what the significance was.
I loved Remember me,,,,it was a grate move,,,The acting was great.The SCRIPT was .great go see it you will love it. Thank u 4 the love,,,,
I wath RM today, I cried! the movie is awesome!!!!!!
REMEMBER ME IS VERY GOOD MOVIE. THE STORY IS STRONG AND SAS BUT POSITIVE “LIVE REALLY HIS LIFE”.
ALL CAST WAS GREAT. I THINK ROB IS A VERY GOOD ACTOR AND THE CRITICS ARE TOO HARD ON HIM AND TWIFAN STUPID DON’T SEE THIS GOOD FILM.
DON’T LOSE IT THEM.
I saw REMEMBER ME it is a great movie.The acting was GREAT.The SCRIPT was GREAT.go see it you will love it.
My husband and I both watched the film and loved it. He was actually surprised by how much he liked it (as I made him come with me) and has been telling people to go see it. It’s the type of film that stays with you. It’s nice in a time when so many materialistic mindless movies are the big hit to watch one such as Remember Me. It was very simple and moving and real. It’s truly a shame that more people didn’t see it for whatever reasons. I hope it does do better abroad it was a good movie.
Stewart has quite a variety going on BEFORE she became Bella. I was impressed by her in Cake Eaters. I think she’ll last way past Twilight. I’m not too convinced of Pattinson, he’s still a pretty face to me. Surely, “Remember Me” is no romantic comedy, is something like “Rebel Without A Cause” kind? Going down that James Dean route, he will get too old for that soon enough.
I just think that with this kind of movie it’s difficult to make a lot of money. Last year, Kristen Stewart was in a movie called “Adventureland”. It was a better movie than “Remember Me”, and it also had a guy who seems to be lost. It was a happy movie, and the critics liked it so much that it had a 80-something percent rating on Rotten Tomatos. But that movie did even worse than “Remember Me” in the box office ($17m world wide according to Box Office Mojo). So perhaps it doesn’t matter how good the movie is, the fact is that these coming-of-age movies are hard sell at this moment. Perhaps “Breakfast Club” wouldn’t become a classic if it were to be made today.
Anyways, I saw “Remember Me” twice in the theatre, and I will buy the DVD when it comes out. I like the movie.
I know it will make money and isn’t that all the suits want! Hey, with the right movie anybody can get the box office, but with this movie it is different! Every Twilight fan is not a Rob fan, I am and I didn’t want to see a sad film, but I knew Rob could act so I went to support him! I wasn’t disappointed “Remember Me is a fantastic movie and worth the time and money!
The movie suffers from the overhype from fans and critics alike. Fans from expecting unrealistic B.O. numbers even though it’s clearly a tiny independent movie. Critics from unfairly knocking it down because they’re turned off by the Rob-mania. The movie is good, not great. It’s one I expect is almost tailor made for the dvd market, not the big screen.
Good to hear it will do well abroad. I am so sorry that more Americans’ didn’t see it because it was a really good movie. The acting was good, the script was good, and it was thought provoking and left one leaving the theatre with a lot to think about. If you haven’t seen it yet, do so. You won’t be sorry. BTW males and females will both enjoy it.
None of those so-called actors have the star power to open a movie unless it’s a twilight film. They have no kind of star power. Their fans only see them as the characters they play in those terrible films. They don’t care about anything else.
I went to see Remember Me and enjoyed it. The story was meant to portray a family torn, hurt, despair, compassion and just being able to move on and let love in. I thought Rob portrayed Tyler expertly and his interactions with his little sister and the best scene was with his father (Pierce) in the board room…WOW the emotion that was flowing between them. I would like to comment about The Runaways however, it is not yet in theatres where I live. The trailers I’ve seen and some critic comments that Kristen and Dakota did an awesome job, I definitely will see it. Thanks!
I saw both movies and though I love Rob I didn’t care for the movie. I loved the Runaways. Both actresses hit it out of the park. I agree with Roger Ebert. Kristen should play Lisbeth Salander in the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Go see the Runaways you won’t be sorry
Remember Me is a tribute to New Yorker’s, not insensitive and insignificant as posted in one of the comments above. The comment really took me by surprise and made me think that the person writing it should go see the movie. This movie humanizes a part of our history that was too soon forgotten, not by those living in New York though.
The people that have been to see Remember me all say it is amazing. Many of my friends have put it off because of the critics, but I am talking them into it. If you miss this phenomenal movie, you are missing out.
How many films does a person have to be in to be considered a working actor, not sure how many for Pattinson but for Stewart, she has at least 20+ films to her credit, sounds like she has a career in acting going on to me.
I don’t know how these two Movies can be compared…ah!!!! here we go.. its because of Twilight…old same old same……..
Wow. Somebody not out sensationalize, but just tell it like it really is. I totally agree with this article. The two of them are making interesting choices right now and we’ll just have to wait and see how it goes. I do believe ‘success’ means something different to them than it does to the majority of hollywood and even a lot of fans. I hope whatever they do makes them happy. Can’t ask for much more than that.
Lets just say.. The mediamaschine wasn’t that helpful in pushing any of the Movies forward. The critics are unable to separate the Actors from Twilight even if they both proofed to be more talented than most of the newcomers. I’m sure that will change and Talent will shut the NO Sayers up…
Why would you completely ruin Remember Me in one of your first sentences? Way to go.
>>>>>>>>>>>Why would you completely ruin Remember Me in one of your first sentences? Way to go.
Sorry about that.
Apparently you haven’t read or heard anything about “Remember Me” in the last two weeks. Else, you’d have known Pattinson’s fate in that movie a long, long time ago. It’s even been discussed in some of the film’s reviews. That’s why we thought it’d be ok to have it here — especially since the hero’s fate is pertinent to the article in question.
Ah critics… they make me laugh because at the end of the day fans of Kristen or Rob could care less about their opinion. I also think starr makes a good point, people are harsher on Rob because of Twilight. Either way numbers speak louder than critic babble…
i saw both. i thought rob and kristen did great. remember me was kinda just there though. like i couldnt really understand why it needed to be made, you know what i mean? but ifelt like it was great for the runaways to come out. more people definitly need to check out their music. its weird that the first all girl rock band that started the rock god joan jett isnt better known
I do not watch Remember Me because of the ending of the story. It is not a good memory to relive again and I do think it is insensitive and insignificant for the screenwriter to use it in the story line. Though I do like Robert and I think he is a very good actor. I will go see Bel Ami.
I’m excited about The Runaways. I like how Kristen chose the rock-role Joan to play. It is completely different with any drama roles that she has ever played. And that is very excited and intrigued. Kristen and Dakota are both amazing actresses. The Runaways has a very good rating. With the rate R, it will limit her fans to come out. So I hope fans give it a chance and support it.
I think the James Dean comparison is not unflattering for those who know and remember James Dean. But for many ppl who did not make the comparison, I think Mr. Pattinson did a remarkable good job. No where in his portrayal of Tyler did you even see a hint of his Edward Cullen persona. It was very refreshing to see. I personally believe that some of the critics who hated twilight or don’t understand the teen craze of twilight brought their own prejudices when critiquing Mr. Pattinson’s performance which is a shame. I see a lot of potential for him given the right script and director. This is the first hint of it and look forward to seeing is other work to come.
I haven’t seen the Runaways yet. I have seen RM and thought it was a very good movie and Rob excellent in it!